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Title: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: David Kulka on August 05, 2010, 06:27:08 pm
In April 2010 I posted a thread on Whatever Works announcing the theft of equipment and parts from my shop. Charges were filed and recently, criminal and civil trials were concluded. I'd like to let people know what happened, see if other victims would like to chime in, and pass on some hard learned lessons.

The person who stole from my shop is David John Hinson. David is an audio technician, originally from England, who has worked in the states for several years. He had sent us a resume last fall and worked in our shop from November 2009 to March 2010. In March we noticed some expensive parts were missing, and, believing that he had taken them, sent him packing. We later realized that two valuable pieces of equipment (one belonging to a client) were also gone. At about the same time I learned, to my surprise, that Mr. Hinson was in already jail on other charges.

We got a lucky break when a local (and honest) engineer heard about a missing item and contacted us. He had bought it after seeing it on Craigslist, not knowing it was stolen, and was good enough to return it to us. He provided good documentation of the purchase from Hinson, which gave the DA enough evidence to press charges, and apparently convinced Hinson to accept the judge's offer of a one-year sentence in exchange for a no contest plea. I also won a judgment in civil court, though the judge ruefully commented "Good luck collecting it."

I've learned that Mr. Hinson was also convicted felony grand theft in 2009, in a case that was similar to mine. And in the last few months, other people who encountered him have contacted me, leading me to believe there have been numerous other victims over the years. Perhaps some of Mr. Hinson's other victims will speak up, here or elsewhere.

This has been a giant hassle that could easily have been avoided.

Many people in our small industry know each other, or know of one another. Like many studios and audio businesses, my company is a small “family” operation. I’ve operated Studio electronics since 1981 with virtually no problems, so I had a sort of blind trust in people that increased over the years. It's easy to let your guard down and let a few weirdnesses slide -- this is a creative industry, with lots of crazy characters, right? It is, but a little caution goes a long way.. I doubt that CNN or Apple Computer would hire someone without a background check but until recently, I saw no need for it. $20 and a few minutes on one of the background check sites would have saved me a lot of grief. Even a free check on the L.A. County Sheriff's site http://app4.lasd.org/iic/ajis_search.cfm would have told me a lot. One needn’t be paranoid or overly suspicious of people...just take simple precautions.

I got a lot of help from numerous law enforcement officials and audio professionals, for which I'm very grateful. That's one great thing about our close-knit industry -- we do help each other. I hope that others can learn from my experience, and avoid similar problems.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: leonardo valvassori on August 05, 2010, 06:48:36 pm
Glad it came to a reasonable conclusion.

Peace
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: RSettee on August 05, 2010, 07:18:10 pm
Good to hear that action was taken and that there was a prosecution--you do the crime, you do the time.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: Paul Cavins on August 05, 2010, 07:35:47 pm
So, we have DAVID JOHN HINSON and ADRIAN GOZUN, and there must be others....
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: Larrchild on August 05, 2010, 10:01:46 pm
He designed the Revolution mic pre and the UA 610. He's also been active in several tech discussions here. Very capable on many levels and seemingly a disaster on others, sad.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: J.J. Blair on August 05, 2010, 10:57:52 pm
The shame about this is this is that I really like John as a person.  And what really baffles me is that if he needed money, I can't understand why he would do work for me, and then not charge me..it's a shame.  He's a very talented, and kind guy...Too bad he couldn't find help, before this happened.

Sorry you had to go through that, David.  It was nice of you to help the guy out, and it sucks when you get burned for your good deeds.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: David Kulka on August 05, 2010, 11:27:11 pm
Well J.J., another hard learned lesson was "Beware of charmers telling sad stories". I can relate to all the things you said. A very common trait among those who con is that they are engaging and likable, even (seemingly) generous.

It seems like a contradiction but it's not, because the things that draw you in are a superficial performance -- another part of the game. It sounds to me like you were lucky, and thanks to timing or God knows what else, your did not end up being a target.

It's not kindness. It's manipulation, and it's classic.

(I think I'm side tracking my own thread, so I'll leave it there.)
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: Bryson on August 06, 2010, 08:09:38 am

Yeah... very sad.
I've had nothing but good dealings with him, since ten years ago. He's helped me out with DIY and tech issues, given me parts for free, etc.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: ssltech on August 06, 2010, 09:07:08 am
I had very limited contact with him over the years; I unsderstand that David Keane took him in and was good to him at a time when he -apparently- was having some significant medical problems... I don't know for certain, but I suspect that David too may have had a bad experience in the end...

The most shocking aspect of my interactions with DJH was my impression of how much we had in common. -Now with the subsequent news, I'm left with a 'dirty' feeling.

It seems that DJH was able to take advantage of some of the nicer people out there... (the two Davids being classic examples of great people who LOVE their vocation!) and that just makes it all the more repulsive.

-It doesn't really restore any of the 'damage' done, but at least it might be a deterrent to think that thieves never prosper.

Keith
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: Jim Williams on August 06, 2010, 10:25:25 am
Under US Immigration law, if a naturalized citizen commits a felony they can be stripped of citizenship and sent back to whence they came from. If a resident alien, they are deported.

Of course, since immigration laws are not enforced, he will be released very soon due to California prison overcrowding. 40,000 other convicted felons are set to be released shortly here from a Federal judge's order to stop overcrowding.

Therefore he will soon be released back into the general population to continue his life of crime. Crime pays in California under this system.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: D. Uwins on August 06, 2010, 12:32:02 pm
Wow. Where there is smoke, there's fire. With everyone's bad experiences i've read, this sorta isn't surprising.

Hopefully he gets his issues sorted out (personal/medical/whichever).
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: yeloocproducer on August 06, 2010, 01:09:55 pm
I was aware of another felony and almost fell off my chair when I found out he had relocated to Dave's shop.

One thing to be aware of (and this is no surprise) is that such people could fly under different pseudonyms on the forums to sell equipment that they had stolen.  The community will need to be careful.  I lost around $1500 in parts purchased for a compressor mod over a year period, and I don't expect to see that back as was mentioned earlier.

Apparently, he's really erratic, apologizing and swearing off his misdeeds on one hand and then returning to them again as soon as possible.  I doubt he will leave prison with a new sense of purpose (unfortunately). The details of how some people can lift stuff and hide it in strange places, throw some of it away, take things apart in random ways, steal from some but not others when they have the chance... shows some sort of pathology but I'm not sure what that would be.

In short, if at some point in the future you meet an affable, likable, genius electronic designer from the UK (no accent to speak of) in his 40s who wears his hair long or short, has some vague health problems, looking for shop work in CA or elsewhere (been known to trek far and wide)... be very very careful.  That person might be capable of biting the hand that feeds.

Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: J.J. Blair on August 06, 2010, 05:42:14 pm
I believe there is no stronger motivation for change than the consequences of being held accountable.  
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: ktownson on August 06, 2010, 09:35:49 pm
The problem with some people like this is they believe their own BS. They convince themselves that they are, deep down, good people, then rationalize their bad actions, and may even do good and selfless acts as a way to continue the charade. I've never met this guy, but I've been burned by his ilk.

It can be an expensive lesson to the trusting victims, both in monetary terms and, perhaps worse, in your own willingness to trust others.



Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: jimmyjazz on August 06, 2010, 11:20:15 pm

For some, maybe it's just the thrill of the chase.  On a few occasions, I've done stupid, (minor) things as an adult just because I wanted to see if I could get away with them, and knew my odds were good.  Nothing worse than what the average pot-smoker does 5 times a day, mind you, just a different flavor of victimless misdemeanor.  I never really figured out why, either, but eventually realized that I was engaging in an infinite risk/reward proposition . . . because there was no reward.

Maybe guys like this have some of that thrill factor at work. It's sad, nonetheless.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: Ross Hogarth on August 07, 2010, 10:22:41 am
sounds like this situation in the end has turned out ok for the moment besides the guys that got burnt with no restitution
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: compasspnt on August 07, 2010, 11:46:11 am
Several posts on this thread have been edited or deleted. (If anyone's verbiage or meaning was changed to your dissatisfaction, please carefully re-edit your post.)

We must be very careful about making direct statements about someone who is or has been or may become involved in a legal situation.

And as much as we would all like to be, we can't become psychological analysts here either.

Thanks to all for their participation, and here's hoping that this type of situation is over.

But all must still be cautious in their dealings with anyone.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: phantom309 on August 07, 2010, 12:02:18 pm
Yes, I was involved up to my neck and it was the most unpleasant interaction I have EVER had with another human being. I lost 20K in the deal. I lost (what I thought was) a good and long time friend over the lies and UNBELIEVABLY detailed and labyrinthine fabrications. I'm glad that we provided units to all but two of the "burned customers" in the process. I'm sorry to all here for my premature defense of him in the forum. He's an audio engineering genius with SO much talent and potential, but without a HUGE amount of help and dedication to a cure, it will never be realized. Dangerous in the extreme and I'm glad it's over. I feel for David K. the most...he and his wife did exactly what Deborah and I did, with similar results. It's sad to see this side of humanity in such close proximity, so personal. Sympathy to empathy to enmity. I am involved in litigation and won't detail further. Depositions suck most when friends are involved.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: J.J. Blair on August 07, 2010, 07:08:57 pm
My unprofessional diagnosis is "borderline personality disorder."
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: bigbone on August 07, 2010, 09:32:50 pm
J.J. Blair wrote on Sat, 07 August 2010 19:08

My unprofessional diagnosis is "borderline personality disorder."


 J.J.

In my ''franglish '' like you said, we call that a '' breathe'' disorder..:...Rolling Eyes


JN


Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: Les Ismore on August 08, 2010, 01:30:13 pm
Sorry to hear of this. I have as probably many people who ran studios over the years been taken by several con men. The one constant is that usually they were the nicest people. Really liked several of them and considered them dear friends. A few were brilliant.

Had a friend just visiting here from Holland and she opened a night club there with a friend who then proceeded to rob her blind. It happens all over the place all the time.

Due dilligence sometimes is over looked when dealing with people we think of as friends, thats why con men work so hard to become our friends.

Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: Fletcher on August 09, 2010, 06:58:50 am
It is very unfortunate to hear this.  I have known the man professionally for probably something close to 20 years.  I know he's had some difficulty in life, and hope he irons these things out in the future.  

While I am also sincerely sorry to hear that Mr. Kulka has had to bear the brunt of these problems, and its good to know that there is a potential problem in the community, I for one would not hesitate to give the man a shot if he has taken steps to turn his life around.

While I probably wouldn't give him keys to the shop until I felt sure about him, I would hardly call Mr. Hinson a "con man".  The work I have seen of his has been "tip top", I just hope is able to tame whatever demons have taken over what has always seemed to me to be a basically good man.

Peace.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: David Kulka on August 09, 2010, 12:56:38 pm
I appreciate everyone's replies and support. Terry, thank you for piloting this thread through occasional rough waters!

Fletcher, I am not aware of any problems or ripoffs that go back more than 5 or 6 years. I can believe that the earlier part of his career was different and that these problems started later on, for whatever reason. I would not use the term "con man" to describe him. Maybe no one will ever know the "whys" but to me, it doesn't matter much. In my daily interactions I too felt there was a good side, and I'm sure has done good things in the past. But to put that in perspective, I think nearly everyone, even the worst criminal, has a good side, just as the finest people on earth surely have a bad side, or at least a sliver of one. I have done things in my business and personal life that were wrong, that I regret. HOWEVER --  most people improve as they grow older -- as they socialize and mature, conscience and morality become more of a guiding force. If the opposite happens, that is a definite red flag.

For anyone who wants to read more, there are a lot of threads on Prodigy and Gearslutz. Names to search for are David Jay, Winston O'Boogie, John Hinson, Aardman, and Friends of John Hinson. Probably most or all of these names were used by Hinson himself, but I don't know for sure. Here are a few threads that came up in my searches:

http://www.prodigy-pro.com/diy/index.php?topic=40366.0
http://www.prodigy-pro.com/diy/index.php?topic=34260.0
            http://www.gearslutz.com/board/gearslutz-secondhand-gear-cla             ssifieds/437113-will-pay-25-if-someone-helps-me-get-ahold-da vid-john-hinson.html
            http://www.gearslutz.com/board/gearslutz-secondhand-gear-cla ssifieds/461963-david-john-hinson.html

Mr. Hinson did not have access to keys when he stole from my shop, and we have an alarm system. I believe that he placed the item in his shoulder bag when no one was looking, then simply closed the zipper -- done.

This event turned my little world upside down. At first it was impossible to comprehend, because I was trying to logically understand something that was not logical. But professionals have said that my experience is common, and unremarkable. Below are some general warning signs. Not all were present in my situation but I think these are important things to look out for, in combination:

Person has been in the industry for years, but has little/no activity with previous clients, little/no cell phone/email activity, no apparent "network".
Person has no wife, girlfriend, or partner, and no circle of friends.
Person gets into mysterious fights and/or disputes with people.
Person seems dishonest about trivial matters, even when there is no apparent benefit.
Person is charming, charismatic, glib, seems skilled at controlling others.
Person does not seem to have genuine sympathy or empathy for others.
Person tells stories that portray him or her as a victim to elicit your pity, help, or money.
Person is bored easily and craves excitement.
Person shows occasional, random bad judgment in business or social situations, or loses temper unexpectedly.
Person seems to have shallow emotions.

Listen to your intuition. If the little voice in your head says that something is not right, that is definitely a red flag.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: Jim Williams on August 10, 2010, 10:46:38 am
Perhaps he can utilize his prolific talents in prison. John Stevens rewired all of the intercoms and reworked the TV reception in a California prison, it made him some needed "friends" for protection.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: bigaudioblowhard on August 10, 2010, 01:09:02 pm
yeah, lets hope the place still has its old PA system with an Altec compressor in the rack,

which begs the question, what happens when he gets out?

I have two Altecs I would pay dearly to modify, perhaps more with a guarantee of delivery,

dream on, is it possible this could ever happen?

bab
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: RMoore on August 10, 2010, 07:11:32 pm
J.J. Blair wrote on Sun, 08 August 2010 01:08

My unprofessional diagnosis is "borderline personality disorder."


Fwiw this is a subject (Borderline) I have some (unfortunately real life) experience with - a very complicated subject, with much variety, elements & degrees of manifestation, but the main trademark is a dysfunction of emotional regulation. Borderlines tend to not have 'brakes'. (In fact there is currently a move to change the term 'Borderline' to 'Emotional Regulation Disorder').

Borderline is seen as afflicting women far more often than men, but there is the suspicion from some experts that rates for Borderline among males probably go underreported (and undiagnosed) since many lower-'functioning' Borderline males likely end up in the correctional system early on due to committing assaults and other acts of violence. Whereas lower-functioning Borderline females tend to come into contact with psychiatric services. The 'higher-functioning' Borderlines tend to carry on in work & life with a facade of 'normality' presented to the World but typically causing much stress, turbulence and distress for those closest to them: family members, children & loved ones who experience their true nature.

The so-called Personality Disorders tend to become fixed & rigid by early adulthood, as in fact they are embedded as an integral part of the 'person's character, with a pervasive presence throughout their life. (Though, in the case of Borderline there tends to be a reduction in the severity of traits after middle-age, suggesting a link with hormones and emotional intensity )..

I don't want to speculate but, that fact that the person in question apparently became unreliable only in recent years is an interesting 'clue' - this could suggest addiction problems in addition to whatever else. Also, some people who are bipolar can exhibit sociopathic traits (listed above in David's post) while in a manic phase - while apparently people who are both bipolar and sociopathic will have those traits exaggerated in a manic phase.

@ David & others who had their trust betrayed - don't be too hard on yourselves! The fact is that someone who was excessively bizarre, unstable, chaotic, criminal or unreliable very likely wouldn't ever make it to the level of being a competent professional tech, so of course the last thing you'd be thinking of is running a background check, vetting or expecting that the person might steal from you!






Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: RMoore on August 11, 2010, 10:15:04 am
 

David Kulka wrote on Mon, 09 August 2010 18:56


Listen to your intuition. If the little voice in your head says that something is not right, that is definitely a red flag.



A good rule of thumb is take a step back & ask yourself 'Is this normal?'

Our sense of intuition & 'gut' feeling has been finely honed over the millennia..


Sociopathic traits - avoid these people:

http://www.sociopathicstyle.com/traits/classic.htm

 http://personalitydisorders.suite101.com/article.cfm/the_sig ns_of_a_sociopath
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: mazoaudio on August 11, 2010, 11:17:05 am
Larrchild wrote on Thu, 05 August 2010 21:01

He designed the Revolution mic pre and the UA 610. He's also been active in several tech discussions here. Very capable on many levels and seemingly a disaster on others, sad.


Man,

I have a UA 2108 and the motherboard says Designed by David Hinson. That's too bad, it's a nice pre.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: ssltech on August 11, 2010, 12:04:36 pm
Quote:

 the motherboard says Designed by David Hinson. That's too bad, it's a nice pre.



I don't think that's a bad thing, at all...

Whatever John's difficulties, he's one hell of a guy when it comes to making tube gear sound good.

Keith
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: J.J. Blair on August 11, 2010, 01:49:33 pm
Ryan, these aren't recent developments.  Some reports of this behavior go back a long ways.  Also, substance addiction did not seem to be part of the problem.  He did suffer from very debilitating depression, much like another borderline I know.  The other borderline I know had sociopathic tendencies, as well.  
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: phantom309 on August 11, 2010, 01:59:11 pm
ssltech wrote on Wed, 11 August 2010 10:04

Quote:

 the motherboard says Designed by David Hinson. That's too bad, it's a nice pre.



I don't think that's a bad thing, at all...

Whatever John's difficulties, he's one hell of a guy when it comes to making tube gear sound good.

Keith



THE most talented, acquisitive abilities I've ever seen at massaging and optimizing audio circuitry of certain vintages. No digital skills really, but intuitive and inspired at applying the knowledge he HAS accumulated over the years. At the same time, he made some HUGE mistakes in diagnosing fairly simple problems with a couple of pieces we have here. Again, at odds with the norm.

Talent and skills are not the problem...except for the fact that they're the bait. Some get burned. Some don't...more obfuscation for the mix. After it was too late, I was warned by people that go back WAY further than 6 years. All major players in this field.

We paid him well. We bought him clothes, made his child support payments, glasses, food, cigarettes and generally treated him like royalty. All because I felt he deserved another chance and we were in a position to offer it.

I miss his charm, wit, abilities, laugh and appreciation for history. He taught me how to properly brew tea and how to bias an A/B circuit. The equipment he built and taught us to build for the studio is my favorite gear in here. Period. I hope I never see the OTHER side again in any human being.

I would do damned near anything to see him find a cure, but I'm not holding my breath.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: RMoore on August 11, 2010, 03:31:13 pm
J.J. Blair wrote on Wed, 11 August 2010 19:49

Ryan, these aren't recent developments.  Some reports of this behavior go back a long ways.  Also, substance addiction did not seem to be part of the problem.  He did suffer from very debilitating depression, much like another borderline I know.  The other borderline I know had sociopathic tendencies, as well.  


Ok, skip that theory then..

indeed with 'kookiness' there is often a lot of crossover of symptoms which is known as comorbidity. One of the problems with the psychiatric 'manual' the DSM, is that people have found symptoms overlap & often don't fit into a neat categorical definition/set list of traits. Depression is apparently a frequent comorbid feature of Borderline fwiw.

The other borderline - a certain 'model' I assume? Definitely seems a candidate.. The Borderliner I was around, among so much other strange behavior, had moments where things resembled an actual horror movie, which I learned later was their psychotic side coming to the fore. Nightmare.

Anyway, such a bizarre story, someone with so much promise & apparent actual talent with electronics - yet with such faults...

(IMO if someone were a 'full on' sociopath you'd think they'd as an example, do something like blag their way into an electronics job possessing few true qualifications - not having the focus & determination to become accomplished, steal the designs, get someone else to make the units with borrowed money, claim it all as their own work, get orders, skip town leaving a trail of bills)

Bipolar could possibly fit with a profile of depression, high skill & creativity, coupled with periods of completely messing up in ways that are impossible to comprehend and leaving a trail of wreckage.


Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: ssltech on August 11, 2010, 04:52:44 pm
phantom309 wrote

He taught me how to properly brew tea...



Tch... that info is already available on the internets...

Razz

Twisted Evil
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: RSettee on August 11, 2010, 06:50:27 pm
Jim Williams wrote on Tue, 10 August 2010 09:46

Perhaps he can utilize his prolific talents in prison. John Stevens rewired all of the intercoms and reworked the TV reception in a California prison, it made him some needed "friends" for protection.


Was Bubba on his side? Or was he protecting against  Bubba?  Laughing
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: phantom309 on August 12, 2010, 12:05:25 am
ssltech wrote on Wed, 11 August 2010 14:52

phantom309 wrote

He taught me how to properly brew tea...



Tch... that info is already available on the internets...

Razz

Twisted Evil


Dang, Keith...you and Barks have this stuff down to a science. At least I had the Hobbknobs biscuits right.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: jrmintz on August 12, 2010, 12:11:29 am
Could another word for 'sociopath' be 'lead singer'?
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: RMoore on August 12, 2010, 12:39:53 am
No that's another category in the DSM - the affliction of infamy: LSD - Lead Singer's Disease
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: Jim Williams on August 12, 2010, 10:20:54 am
RSettee wrote on Wed, 11 August 2010 15:50

Jim Williams wrote on Tue, 10 August 2010 09:46

Perhaps he can utilize his prolific talents in prison. John Stevens rewired all of the intercoms and reworked the TV reception in a California prison, it made him some needed "friends" for protection.


Was Bubba on his side? Or was he protecting against  Bubba?  Laughing


I was told the story by Doug Messinger in NoHo, he knew John well as he has his machines.

John was bored in I believe Vacaville Prison. He volunteered to rewire the prison intercom system. That was a great success so he next rewired the TV antenna and wiring to the prison cells.

One day the big boss man of the prison, a very large black "Bubba" approached him in the prison yard. John thought he was in big time trouble.

Bubba said; "My TV never looked so good. If anyone messes with you just bring it to me".
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: RSettee on August 12, 2010, 07:22:10 pm
Jim Williams wrote on Thu, 12 August 2010 09:20

RSettee wrote on Wed, 11 August 2010 15:50

Jim Williams wrote on Tue, 10 August 2010 09:46

Perhaps he can utilize his prolific talents in prison. John Stevens rewired all of the intercoms and reworked the TV reception in a California prison, it made him some needed "friends" for protection.


Was Bubba on his side? Or was he protecting against  Bubba?  Laughing


I was told the story by Doug Messinger in NoHo, he knew John well as he has his machines.

John was bored in I believe Vacaville Prison. He volunteered to rewire the prison intercom system. That was a great success so he next rewired the TV antenna and wiring to the prison cells.

One day the big boss man of the prison, a very large black "Bubba" approached him in the prison yard. John thought he was in big time trouble.

Bubba said; "My TV never looked so good. If anyone messes with you just bring it to me".


That is awesome, man. You never know what talents will save your ass in jail!
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: phantom309 on August 12, 2010, 08:26:38 pm
RSettee wrote on Thu, 12 August 2010 17:22

Jim Williams wrote on Thu, 12 August 2010 09:20

RSettee wrote on Wed, 11 August 2010 15:50

Jim Williams wrote on Tue, 10 August 2010 09:46

Perhaps he can utilize his prolific talents in prison. John Stevens rewired all of the intercoms and reworked the TV reception in a California prison, it made him some needed "friends" for protection.


Was Bubba on his side? Or was he protecting against  Bubba?  Laughing


I was told the story by Doug Messinger in NoHo, he knew John well as he has his machines.

John was bored in I believe Vacaville Prison. He volunteered to rewire the prison intercom system. That was a great success so he next rewired the TV antenna and wiring to the prison cells.

One day the big boss man of the prison, a very large black "Bubba" approached him in the prison yard. John thought he was in big time trouble.

Bubba said; "My TV never looked so good. If anyone messes with you just bring it to me".


That is awesome, man. You never know what talents will save your ass in jail!


No. Sorry.
What would have been "awesome" was if he had NOT gone to jail in the first place and was able to complete the mind blowing ideas he had on the books and drawing table before they hauled him off. You have no idea what we narrowly missed having from the mind of John StePHens.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: RSettee on August 12, 2010, 09:14:49 pm
phantom309 wrote on Thu, 12 August 2010 19:26

RSettee wrote on Thu, 12 August 2010 17:22

Jim Williams wrote on Thu, 12 August 2010 09:20

RSettee wrote on Wed, 11 August 2010 15:50

Jim Williams wrote on Tue, 10 August 2010 09:46

Perhaps he can utilize his prolific talents in prison. John Stevens rewired all of the intercoms and reworked the TV reception in a California prison, it made him some needed "friends" for protection.


Was Bubba on his side? Or was he protecting against  Bubba?  Laughing


I was told the story by Doug Messinger in NoHo, he knew John well as he has his machines.

John was bored in I believe Vacaville Prison. He volunteered to rewire the prison intercom system. That was a great success so he next rewired the TV antenna and wiring to the prison cells.

One day the big boss man of the prison, a very large black "Bubba" approached him in the prison yard. John thought he was in big time trouble.

Bubba said; "My TV never looked so good. If anyone messes with you just bring it to me".


That is awesome, man. You never know what talents will save your ass in jail!


No. Sorry.
What would have been "awesome" was if he had NOT gone to jail in the first place and was able to complete the mind blowing ideas he had on the books and drawing table before they hauled him off. You have no idea what we narrowly missed having from the mind of John StePHens.



No doubt. I just thought that was a cool story about making the best of a bad situation.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: mazoaudio on August 12, 2010, 09:56:24 pm
What the heck did Steven's have to go to jail for?
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: phantom309 on August 13, 2010, 12:39:37 am
mazoaudio wrote on Thu, 12 August 2010 19:56

What the heck did Steven's have to go to jail for?


It's spelled "Stephens".

I'm sure the details are in here somwhere-
http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/mv/msg/15367/0/0/ 15129/
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: Doug Rogers on August 15, 2010, 01:02:19 pm
What a sad, sad, story!!

I have a lot of tube equipment I purchased both directly from John and from David Kean (who you can rely on 100%) while John worked there, and it's my favorite audio gear. I hope John gets some professional help to put him back on the rails because he's extremely talented.

Kudos to both Davids for giving him opportunities, a pity it wasn't appreciated!

Cheers,

- DR
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: Samc on August 17, 2010, 12:38:24 pm
David Kulka wrote on Mon, 09 August 2010 17:56


This event turned my little world upside down. At first it was impossible to comprehend, because I was trying to logically understand something that was not logical. But professionals have said that my experience is common, and unremarkable. Below are some general warning signs. Not all were present in my situation but I think these are important things to look out for, in combination:

Person has been in the industry for years, but has little/no activity with previous clients, little/no cell phone/email activity, no apparent "network".
Person has no wife, girlfriend, or partner, and no circle of friends.
Person gets into mysterious fights and/or disputes with people.
Person seems dishonest about trivial matters, even when there is no apparent benefit.
Person is charming, charismatic, glib, seems skilled at controlling others.
Person does not seem to have genuine sympathy or empathy for others.
Person tells stories that portray him or her as a victim to elicit your pity, help, or money.
Person is bored easily and craves excitement.
Person shows occasional, random bad judgment in business or social situations, or loses temper unexpectedly.
Person seems to have shallow emotions.

Listen to your intuition. If the little voice in your head says that something is not right, that is definitely a red flag.

Based on this list there are more than a few people who I need to be suspicious of...

We need to be careful not to make monsters out of everybody....
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: mgod on August 17, 2010, 01:19:20 pm
Hinson stole 2 V-72s from me. I sent them to him in December of 2004 for some simple maintenance. In April he said he was finished and asked me to Paypal him $160.00. I said that was ridiculously low but he insisted it was sufficient. Then he called right back and said he needed more for shipping. I gave him my FedEx number. End of chapter - no V-72s ever arrived.

The following August he called me at Larrabee East and said he'd heard I never received them and started passing blame around, primarily accusing his wife. Even when he moved to LA he maintained the story and promised he'd replace them for me. I believed him.

If anyone can help me track them I'd appreciate it. These were my favorite Bass DI - e.g. "Black Cadillac". So if anyone knows someone who might have bought a V-72 or two from Hinson in the first part of 2005, they are most likely mine.

DS
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: mgod on August 17, 2010, 01:21:11 pm
PS - what John Stephens could have given us...

In 1982 he showed me a video projector in his shop that it took another 25 years for the big companies to equal.

DS
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: mgod on August 18, 2010, 01:09:05 pm
I found this guy via one of David Kulka's links:

http://redwoodcoastmusic.com/

He bought a V72 from Hinson off of ebay. So far he doesn't answer his phone.

DS
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: mgod on August 18, 2010, 06:42:58 pm
No, it wasn't mine. Oh well.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: RSettee on August 19, 2010, 06:54:52 pm
Did you get a tracking number then, Dan? Couldn't you have seen where it made it to, if indeed it was at all shipped? Did you get any money back via insurance from FedEx?
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: mgod on August 19, 2010, 10:53:18 pm
I didn't know it was really stolen until this all came out - until this I believed his story.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: Roundbadge on August 19, 2010, 11:45:33 pm
Sorry to hear about your hassle David.
Serious bummer about John.
what a waste.
Heartbreaking and shocking.
I'd heard some bad stories about him prior to our meeting but went with the benefit of a doubt.seemed like such a sweet talented guy.I really liked hanging out with him and talking gear/potential designs,etc
he made me 4 RS124's in an extermely timely manner and was going to make me some pre amps and talked of some super cool EQ designs...communication was great.
some of my favorite compressors.
seemed like he was really on the up and up and getting his thing together here in LA.

Almost gave him my V76's for repair but for whatever reasons he didn't take them and then dropped off the face of the planet.
couldn't get ahold of him.
guess I got lucky.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: Berolzheimer on August 21, 2010, 08:59:36 pm
I just stumbled upon a post from Mr. Hinson in the Abbey Road thread, I found his sig to be, well, ironic:
index.php/fa/15272/0/

Here's hoping John gets the help he needs & can return to being a decent human, and can continue to contribute his genius & be rewarded properly and legitimately for his contributions.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: Howard B. on February 04, 2011, 07:28:49 pm
Allow me to introduce myself.  My name is Howard and I am the appointed Power Of Attorney for David John Hinson.  

I read with interest the various armchair diagnoses and judgements written here and I feel obliged to set the record a little straighter.  In writing, my aim is not to gain sympathy, nor make excuses. I am only concerned with the facts.

Mr J.J. Blair is correct in speculating that David suffered from clinical depression in the past – I can confirm that this has been so for the better part of 25 years.  

But this is where the correctness of the speculated psychology diagnoses end.

One month ago, David underwent complete neurological tests in the UK.  
The preliminary diagnosis was one of Complex Partial Seizures and, following an MR scan to determine to cause of these seizures, it was determined that David suffers from Mesial Temporal Lobe Sclerosis.  This, in short, is damage to the brain cells in the temporal lobe. The damage is almost certainly a result of suffering a head trauma some years ago.
 
Should medications fail to control the episodes, and thus far they have failed to control them, the treatment for this condition is then surgery.  The surgery performed is a temporal lobectomy which involves removing part of the temporal lobe.

Now, should you care to know what all this means, a quick google search of ‘Complex Partial Seizures’, and particularly those caused by ‘Mesial Temporal Lobe Sclerosis’, just might explain some of David’s strange behaviour in recent years.

I would like to add at this point that David in every way possible takes full responsibility for his actions.  
Indeed, despite being advised by his Neurologist that it is very typical for people with this condition to exhibit strange behaviours, blackouts and personality changes, David’s stance, simply stated, is that ‘to not take complete and full responsibility, is to deny the existence of part of himself, however distasteful that part may be.’

(Edited out for poor judgement)

Yours sincerely.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: Berolzheimer on February 04, 2011, 07:36:56 pm
Wow.

Well, for what it's worth, Howard, I am an American citizen and have long been ashamed of and frustrated by how we treat our inmates and detainees, for all the reasons you outlined and more.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: Eric H. on February 04, 2011, 07:52:12 pm
Regarding censorship, I doubt very much that the post will be removed, as it gives a new light to this particular thread that I remember following last year.
I find it great that Howard took the time to set the record straight concerning the health of his client.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: J.J. Blair on February 04, 2011, 08:20:51 pm
Thanks for the update, Howard.  Even though I was unhappy with what John did to friends of mine, up until that point, I had considered him a friend, and I do care about him getting treatment, for whatever ails him.

I don't think anybody here thinks we have a great penal system, but I don't see why you have to take the opportunity to bash the US over it, and claim UK superiority.  Let ye without sin cast the first stone.  

I hope John finds the correct treatment, and gets a chance to make restitution to the people he's harmed.  I'd like to see him be able to take advantage of his genius, and that can only happen by making full amends.  
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: mgod on February 04, 2011, 11:58:18 pm
Dear Howard,

Yes, our prison system stinks. Many do.

Do what you will about this assertion - despite my friendship to him and my efforts to help him, David/John stole from me and then pinned the blame on his wife. I hope he gets better in the remnant of the glorious British Empire, and he then can make some form of restitution to those of us whom he damaged.

Its good to have an answer. Not so good to see a demand for sympathy expressed this way. We have an expression here in the colonies - "adding insult to injury".

Your choice to grant or not grant forgiveness has little to do with the facts with which you're concerned.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: Bill Mueller on February 05, 2011, 09:29:55 am
Hello Howard,

This is not an anonymous forum. For all we know you are David Hinson himself in Barrister drag. If you want to be taken seriously yourself and your plea for pity for David to be taken as presented, please identify yourself beyond the laughingly anonymous label of Howard B.

And sir, scolding honest, hard working victims of crime is not professional in any country, which makes me question your credentials.

Best regards,

Bill Mueller
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: Phil Mayor on February 05, 2011, 01:51:35 pm
Agreed.

Until you identify yourself your postings are meaningless.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: John Bailey on February 05, 2011, 03:16:00 pm
MODS HAVE EDITED OUT THE INFORMATION FORMERLY CONTAINED IN THIS POST, AS IT IS PERSONAL.

THANK YOU.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: Howard B. on February 05, 2011, 05:02:45 pm
Well, well, well Smile I seem to have stirred the bee hive!

If you re-read my first paragraph above, you should, hopefully, read that I did not seek sympathy, nor attempt to make excuses for crimes commited.
As I stated, my intention was to put an end to the numerous 2nd and 3rd hand incorrect psychiatric diagnoses that were posted here.
At no time did I attempt to lay blame on anyone who may be a victim of crime.  

I also attempted, maybe rather poorly, to paraphrase David's own feelings regarding being 100% responsible for his actions.

As Power Of Attorney, my obligations are purely to deal with financial affairs.  Among other financial matters, this includes the ability to make financial resitution on David's behalf where it is found necessary.
Indeed, I have already written to Mr Kulka with that aim in mind.  I am, as yet, unable to match all of the names in my documentation to some posters here due to some of them being... dare I say - anonymous!
I do have a letter ready for a Mr Kean (who I recently discovered was 'Phantom309') and his solicitor which will be sent post haste.
I'm afraid I haven't the foggiest idea who MGOD is.  It sounds like he has legitimate grievances and it would help if I could have a name to match the persona.  If you could kindly send me a message MGOD, I shall be able to send you the relevant P.O.A. document so that we may communicate with the aim of restitution and resolution.  I have, in the last week, succesfully negotiated an agreement regarding an outstanding contract.

Having said all this, are my postings here still invalid?


I would like to add that I do regret that my personal feelings were allowed to escape onto the page and cloud the issues.   Yes, there is much wrong with both of our country's penal systems.  

However, I was not referring to the US penal system.  My anger was - still is - directed purely at the illegal detaining of non citizens - wordwide - who are detained indefinitely without contact with family and friends and, in some cases, are treated with brutality and torture by persons who are ill equiped to hold such positions.
I shall remove this portion of my prior post.  Please accept my apology.

It is indicative of the internet that people sat in their homes feel entitled to post whatever they desire, without thought for truth, repercussions or other persons privacy.  Gone is the old code of ethics because, now, everyone is a self-proclaimed journalist, judge, jury, analyst et al.

While you are busy looking up my information and posting phone numbers online, feel free to also look up a Mrs Stephanie Watkin and a Mr Robert Findlow.  One is a Solicitor, the other a Detective Inspector with Greater Manchester Police.  

Together with an employee of the US Justice department, we are all providing our services Pro Bono in a collective good faith effort to deal with David's outstanding issues.

Our time spent on this is our own and is given freely.  We do not welcome phone calls during our working hours and at our places of employment.  I do hope the management or moderator of this site is taking note.  
I am reluctant to post on here my email address and personal information for fear of spam.  I am happy to accept messages from ligitimate claimants however so fire away.

Sincerely.  
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: mgod on February 05, 2011, 05:37:39 pm
My name is Dan Schwartz. David/John stole 2 Telefunken (Siemens) V-72 mic amplifiers from me. These were previously modified by James Gangwer -  rack mounted, with input (on the amplifier itself) and output level controls  and a DI input (on the rack-mounting panel). I sent them to John for some basic maintenance at the end of 2004 and never saw them again. Several times we sat at lunch and he told me he was trying to replace them, that his wife was keeping him from them. But every time I found a pair for him to buy he had some reason for not doing it.

I doubt that stirring the hive serves your client.

Identities are available here without much effort.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: Howard B. on February 05, 2011, 05:45:55 pm
mgod wrote on Sat, 05 February 2011 22:37

My name is Dan Schwartz.


Thank you Dan. I will search the documents I have for your email address and contact you.

mgod wrote on Sat, 05 February 2011 22:37

I doubt that stirring the hive serves your client.


It really depends on the intended result and the client.  In this particular case, you are most likely correct.

mgod wrote on Sat, 05 February 2011 22:37

Identities are available here without much effort.


So I see from experience.  

Thank you.

Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: PP on February 05, 2011, 06:34:13 pm
Quote: "I seem to have stirred the bee hive!"



Your efforts.

On the defendants behalf.

Will be welcomed and appreciated by many.

However, they won't resolve the matter finally or settle the bees.

Not until the honey is all back in the beehive, and the beekeeper is fully satisfied.

I'm afraid this Fora truly is the nearest thing to a genuine, Recording Industry Discussion Platform.

It's always been a tight knit field, but the dissipation of Large Studio's and the rise of Independent Producer Studios.

Mean this gathering of Professional Expertise, is an unparalleled resource, where members have an interdependently supportive relationship.

An act against one, is thus potentially, an act against everyone who posts here, that enjoy  relationships, characterised by mutual respect and overriding trust.
 
Personally, I greatly value your intervention, and hope you can fully reconcile all the outstanding issues involved. That you have chosen to do this in your own time, speaks well of you.

But I am afraid it may be seen as a forlorn attempt to head off a direct legal confrontation over International Boundaries that will not be in the best interests of your client, in any way, shape or form.

You are attempting to act in the best interests of your client aren't you?



However.

That will obviously.

Not necessarily be in the automatic best interest of the Victims.

Who may well feel that in addition to the restoration of what was stolen or its true equal value today.

Very substantial compensation should be promptly forthcoming, to redress the lost time and money involved, for them.

In Recording Studio work, time equates to money very directly, quite apart from the emotional turmoil in dealing with all these matters.

I appreciate your post and all you are doing on your clients behalf, however if you believe that this is likely to make the Victims here, back right off.

I have to tell you, that their track record of dealing with miscreants, is to publicly crucify them, and be relentless in applying that pressure on a continuing basis.

You may have to rethink your stratagem.

Provided that's what it is.

Professionally.

Your client.

Is finished.



Quote : "This is not an anonymous forum."



Quite!

With respect to the individual involved.

As a trained and experienced representative of the legal profession.

It would have behoved him to have taken the elementary step of familiarising himself with the prerequisite Fora rules.

This lamentably appalling lack of respect for detail, does not bode well for his defendant, who will no doubt be fully relying on his Professional assiduity.



I write this.

Because although the plaintiff.

Will be severely distressed at the crime to his business.

David Kulka is known to be an 'Oak of Quality', both as a Man, and at his Profession.

We know what he stands for, what he is about, his Values, and Highly Regard Him by Hard Won Reputation.

Like us, he will be no doubt be distressed, but not perhaps surprised, to read of the defendants undeniable health problems.

However, it does remain to be seen whether surgery, that involves slicing away a section of Brain, will in fact, ever be finally enacted at all.

As a Conductor, I once gave the Pianist job, to a similarly afflicted individual for two Concerts at The Royal Albert Hall, he acquitted himself very well.

Furthermore the U.S. police force, like the British police force, do a very difficult job, and have at times to handle some extremely difficult to deal with people indeed.

If you feel that there is so strong a case against them, you will no doubt be handing your brief to a Barrister of International Law, and escalating  the matter to a Higher Court altogether.

Rest assured, everyone hereabouts, will welcome the advancement and relish the looming confrontation. All Victims, naturally want to draw such matters, to a equitable, just and finally satisfactory conclusion.



But!

If you don't.

Then this is all obfuscation.

Designed to discombobulate opposition.

Preparation for a plea of Mitigating Circumstance.

What you haven't revealed to us, is what actions the defendant enacted.

To need to be met by such a tremendously robust response, from LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS!

Their job is to serve and protect the public, from those who for whatever reason, indulge in and inflict, CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.



So there are obviously.

Further crimes of which we were not previously cognisant.

That have been enacted by, and that the defendant, is clearly believed to be, personally  responsible for.

I also note that Dan Schwartz another valued member of PSW also claims to have been stolen from by the defendant.

Thank you, for the helpful additional notification of these further crimes,  that continue to strengthen the case, against your client.

They greatly assist in building the case for the prosecution, should these matters ultimately be brought to trial, as the plaintiff would obviously wish.

May I write that the concern and alarm, that I expressed earlier for the good of the defendant, is now far, far greater than ever before, as a result of your revealing letter.

But chiefly, because, YOU, it appears, will be acting on his behalf.

He truly is misfortunate!



Clearly, sorry as we are.

And deeply sympathetic as we might be, to anyone that suffers illness of any kind.  

This in itself, is not adequate defence, nor absolves the individual concerned for the responsibility of restitution and recompensation, to those they have wronged.

Let alone, directly facing up to the dire consequences, the law demands of any successfully convicted criminal. Something according to your letter, the defendant is very earnest to do.

The fact that he has fled the Country in which he was liable to face up to those consequences, all mitigating circumstance aside,  flies in the face of the sincerity, of that easy to make claim across an Oceans Depth.



To most of the people.

Involved in The Music Industry, their High Class Audio Equipment is something akin to a profoundly deep relationship, they treasure, covert and cherish, sometimes more so, than even human ones, if the truth be told.

The unassailable fact is, the reputation of the defendant is now so severely damaged in the Professional Audio Arena that short of an 'Angel', or 'Changing His Identity', it will be difficult for him to ever work successfully, in this field, ever again.

When you write "This would be of no concern to me as it is merely the internet. It is not real life." it is vituperating, disingenuous, hyperbole. Why would a Legal Representative bother to write such a lengthy defence of his Client, in a place of no genuine consequence?

The many thousands of Hit's perhaps?



Many individuals.

That work in The Music Industry, have some form of debilitating illness. Often this is most readily exhibited in difficult to comprehend and control, complexes and incredibly disturbing personality disorders, which those of us highly experienced in dealing with Powerful Artistic Temperaments, have observed, and robustly dealt with for years.

But they do not steal from their employers and their clients, nor flee countries to escape the consequences.

The absolute truth is, some of them seem to be far more trouble altogether!



I believe.

Everyone here will wish the defendant, a speedy full recovery, from all his many ills.

Not least because, he may be able to face the full consequences of his crime, all the sooner.

Something your letter suggests, he is ardently passionate about, thus I'm sure, will not want to resist!

We look forward, to hearing confirmation, this is so.




P
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: Fenris Wulf on February 05, 2011, 08:06:01 pm
Howard Brooks wrote on Sat, 05 February 2011 22:02

However, I was not referring to the US penal system. My anger was - still is - directed purely at the illegal detaining of non citizens - wordwide - who are detained indefinitely without contact with family and friends and, in some cases, are treated with brutality and torture by persons who are ill equiped to hold such positions.

Sorry, but you REALLY don't sound like a real attorney. An attorney doesn't post anonymously on an internet forum about a pending case and throw in vague allegations of police brutality followed by a gratuitous political rant.

A real attorney certainly doesn't say this:
Quote:

We do not welcome phone calls during our working hours and at our places of employment.


Brain problems? Who knows? It could be real or it could be part of the scam. It could be real AND part of the scam.

A real attorney handles things through the proper channels, communicates with the injured parties through registered letters, and keeps his mouth shut until the client's day in court. If other people are posting false information on the Internet, he sends them a cease and desist letter.

If "Howard Brooks" contacts any forum members, I would advise them NOT to reply or give him any personal information or contact information.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: Howard B. on February 05, 2011, 08:23:00 pm
Dear PP,
It is late here and  my day is coming to a close so I must be brief.
I greatly enjoyed your poetic and aesthetically eloquent response...
A couple of clarifications if I may:
David  plead ‘no contest’ to the case involving Mr Kulka back in 2010.
He served his time in full within the medical wing of a California County Jail.
There was no court ordered restitution awarded Mr Kulka because the item(s) had already been recovered.
However, and again, I have contacted Mr Kulka privately to discuss further restitution.  
I believe it is really up to Mr Kulka to decide whether or not he wishes to discuss this matter with the readers.  I cannot make that decision.  Nor, naturally, could, or would I object if he so chooses to do so.

David did not fly the coup back to the UK to avoid prosecution.  Upon release from the County Jail, where there any outstanding warrants, he would have been held pending arraignment.

He was though taken to a privately-contracted Homeland Security detention centre.

Now, I acknowledge this is not the correct platform for this, but I would ask you to step aside a minute and ask yourself what you might do if you found yourself in a country faced with possibly only two choices:

1/ Continue to be held indefinitely, for possibly 6 years (there were some who had indeed been there longer for want of anywhere else to go), without contact with your family.  To witness and to be the victim of vicious brutality, forced nakedness, loud music piped in the room throughout the night, changed or missed vital medications.  Several deaths of fellow detainees ... Or

2/ Seek help through your Embassy to be released and returned to your country of origin so you may receive the medical attention you require.

You have asked what crimes David commited while being detained to warrant such action.  None.
Homeland Security does not play by the same rules as anyone else.  


Lastly, I thank you for your appraisal of my inability to handle David’s financial affairs.  
Thank heavens for him that there are three others to check my work Wink

Goodnight.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: Fenris Wulf on February 05, 2011, 08:29:44 pm
I do not believe the story about the "privately-contracted Homeland Security detention centre." Homeland Security is not concerned with simple theft.

I've encountered scammers in the past, and this is ringing a lot of alarm bells. This person should be treated with extreme skepticism until his story and identity can be verified.

At the very least, he picked an inappropriate venue to discuss his client's case.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: Howard B. on February 05, 2011, 08:40:24 pm
Fenris Wulf wrote on Sun, 06 February 2011 01:06

Sorry, but you REALLY don't sound like a real attorney. An attorney doesn't post anonymously on an internet forum about a pending case...

...If "Howard Brooks" contacts any forum members, I would advise them NOT to reply or give him any personal information or contact information.



Good grief! There is no pending case.  
I merely wish to act in David's best interests which involves resolving outstanding issues.

No matter, I have contacted Dan Schwatz (thank you Dan) and also David Kulka. Should anyone else wish to speak with me then maybe Dan or David would be willing to kindly pass on my email information.

I'll take my leave and leave you to it.


By the by Mr Wulf, anyone at all may act as someone's Power Of Attorney.  It would not matter one iota if David had picked his Mother or yourself for the job.

Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: Howard B. on February 05, 2011, 08:43:42 pm
Fenris Wulf wrote on Sun, 06 February 2011 01:29

I do not believe the story about the "privately-contracted Homeland Security detention centre." Homeland Security is not concerned with simple theft.



I believe some of your esteemed associates may be able to answer that one for you.
Homeland Security heads what was the I.N.S.

?
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: J.J. Blair on February 05, 2011, 09:01:55 pm
I do know this: Before the David Kulka situation, people involved with John were trying to get him to return to the UK for treatment under National Health.  He was suffering from very debilitating depression.  

I can find out about INS.  Also, anybody posting on John's behalf, whether a real person or a sock puppet, has to know that the people on this forum have easy access to knowing if that story is true or not, so I don't dismiss the story off hand.  Nor do I accept it, without question.  
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: Fletcher on February 10, 2011, 01:43:00 am
Howard B. wrote on Sat, 05 February 2011 20:40

I merely wish to act in David's best interests which involves resolving outstanding issues.


Well Ace - you're off to a piss poor start on that task... if you were sincerely interested in being of assistance you would have contacted the parties that had logged a grievance privately in an attempt to settle the problem quietly rather than dragging this shit out into the public again.

While I sincerely wish Mr. Hinson the best of luck with his life and his future, I also sincerely hope he finds a better spokesperson.  Dragging this thread up from the dead is probably one of the stupidest things you could have possibly done from a "public relations" perspective.

Peace.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: ssltech on February 10, 2011, 09:30:05 am
Fletcher wrote

Dragging this thread up from the dead is probably one of the stupidest things you could have possibly done from a "public relations" perspective.


Indeed.

After I learned of Mr. Hinson's transgression against Mr. Kulka (who is as solid a gentleman as one could hope to meet -in ANY line of business) I learned about one other who -out of great dignity and decency is NOT posting here, who had also tried to help DJH.

After that, I spoke to another person about the sad turn of events, and it appears that this person may well have purchased some items from Mr. Hinson which were NOT Mr. Hinson's legal property to sell. -At the time, he thought it was just a GREAT bargain, and given Mr. Hinson's employer at the time, it wasn't entirely unfeasible. The items in question were BRAND NEW, it should be noted... and not V72's. Probably not worth raking everything up. Again.

If it came to anything such as a subpoena, I'd be prepared to share the information, but I have no wish to drag my friend into the whole viper's-nest of legal action, so I won't.

So why do I mention this now? -because I'm not 100% convinced that 'Howard' might not be DJH posting under a 'smokescreen' user name; Not a situation which I'd ordinarily consider so readily, but since DJH has a history of doing exactly that on this and other fora, I can't help but give it some consideration.

Anyhow, the more it drags on, and the more that things are exhumed and re-exposed to the bleaching sunlight of public discussion, the more that other people out there might also arrive at similar epiphanies.

If I could have one wish granted about all of this, please make it this: please make sure that David/John gets help. -I remember corresponding briefly with him years ago and discovering that he was about the same age as myself, and from the same part of the country. -I remember feeling glad that others from my area and era would be acting as 'ambassadors' for the English North-West. Unfortunately I'm saddened, but my main concern is that he -or his agents- should focus on healing, and not on addressing an understandably shredded public reputation.

I don't believe that Dan has acted in any way impatiently or indecently.

I don't believe that it's impossible we've not heard from everyone who may feel 'foolish' as a result of having their trust abused.

There's a lot I don't believe, it seems.

But most firmly of all, I don't believe that this line of action is in ANY way in "your client" DJH's best interest. Google "Adrian Gozun" to see why furthering public discussion can serve no useful purpose.

Respectfully,
Keith Andrews
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: David Kulka on February 10, 2011, 12:23:51 pm
I'm coming back to this thread a little late, as I didn't see the "Howard" replies and the other new ones until yesterday.

Last week I received an email from "Howard" asking for details of the civil case I had won against Hinson. I was amused by the florid language, which had that Nigerian "trying to sound official but not nearly succeeding" scammer vibe.
Title: Re: Theft From My Shop: David John Hinson Pleads No Contest, is Sentenced
Post by: Fletcher on February 10, 2011, 12:40:08 pm
...and that boys and girls brings a conclusion to our broadcast day.

This thread will be locked, and NOT transferred to the "new forums" which will be going "100% live" on 1 March 2011.  This tripe will remain in the archives in perpetuity... one of the good or bad things about the internet depending on your perspective.

I hope you all have a lovely day.

Peace.