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Title: "Big" sounding mic pres.
Post by: Chris L on May 03, 2004, 07:20:45 PM
Right now I have a peavey vmp-2 that I'll probably be selling. I like the sound I'm getting on it from guitars and bass, but on drums (kick and snare) it just wasn't fast enough for me. Didn't get a really good crack or a defining kick sound.

I want to get a 'fat' sounding dual mono pre under 1k. Are there any worth considering in that price range?

Geeze. I'd REALLY just love to get a Chandler TG-2.  Maybe by the time I look at getting a new pre I'll have enough for it. Very Happy
Title: Re: "Big" sounding mic pres.
Post by: Audio Engineer on May 04, 2004, 03:03:43 AM
Look into an Avalon 737sp, Vintech 1272, Sytek MPX4AII or go to www.mercenary.com and speak to Fletcher...he'll be able to point you in the tight direction for sure.

AE
Title: Re: "Big" sounding mic pres.
Post by: hargerst on May 04, 2004, 09:28:30 PM
The RNP can do "snap" really well.
Title: Re: "Big" sounding mic pres.
Post by: Tone Laborer on May 06, 2004, 11:56:48 AM
Harvey,
Amongst these pages, I've seen people compare the RNP to an API. DO you see that comparison? I have a RNC and of course, love it. But I wish it was balanced +4 input.
I work just down the street from those guys, BTW.
Title: Re: "Big" sounding mic pres.
Post by: groove guru on May 06, 2004, 05:51:18 PM
Keep the VMP-2 for smooth vocals and acoustic guitars.  And get a Vintech Dual 72 for electric gtr's and drums.  The 72 is big as hell and has a good bit of color. I'm not saying that the Vintech is the best Nevish pre out there, but it does what it's supposed to do at a very fair price.  I haven't tried the TG-2, but you can bet that I've been drooling over it for quite some time.  Good luck with whatever you choose.
Title: Re: "Big" sounding mic pres.
Post by: bloodstone on May 07, 2004, 05:30:28 PM
Big sounding/fat/dual/under $1k.  something about all that thrown together seems like an oxymoron, although a pair of Joe Meek VC6Qs (not the current sense type) might sort of fit the bill.
Title: Re: "Big" sounding mic pres.
Post by: Jim Dugger on May 07, 2004, 10:46:11 PM

Wunder Audio is in Austin, TX.  They make a 1073 unit, looks very cool.

Title: Re: "Big" sounding mic pres.
Post by: Aziel on May 09, 2004, 03:25:15 AM
How can i get in touch with Wunder audio? are their 1073 good enough?  Rolling Eyes
Title: Re: "Big" sounding mic pres.
Post by: wunderkap on May 17, 2004, 11:08:03 PM
Hello Aziel,
Someone alerted me to the fact that you want to get in touch with Wunder Audio.  you can do to http://www.wunderaudio.com/ or email mike@wunderaudio.com
look for the reviews in May 2004 Tape Op or the June 2004 Mix magazine.
It's a remake of the Zeppelin module and actually will beat a 1073 in an a/B test.
take care
Wunderkap
Title: Re: "Big" sounding mic pres.
Post by: ozmorphasis on August 15, 2004, 02:19:10 PM
Hi Harvey,

First off, let me say that I have been reading and enjoying much of what you have shared in this and the HomeRecording forums.  Much Thanks!!!

I was wondering if you could give some advice...(I'm sure you don't get that line too often!!  ; )

I have a couple of decent mics(km184, mc012, ksm44), and am in the process of recording my families music: traditional Persian music.  This is all acoustic intruments, some plucked, some bowed. Vocals as well.

My setup is a Motu 896HD, with Audiodesk, and that's basically it going into an iMac.  For now, I only have plugins for effects(including dynamics, compression, etc).

While I have a ton to learn and experiment with in regards to mic placement, mic choice etc, I am wondering if there are a couple of key pieces of gear that I would need.  Specifically, for violin and vocals, would I benefit a lot from running a preamp such as the Peavey VMP-2 before the 896hd?  I find the sound of the pres on the motu a bit cold and stark.  If so, what do you think of the Peavey?  Any other pres you recommend?

Also, should I have outboard compression while tracking/recording live in the siganl chain before the motu?  I have heard greaet things about the RNC.  

Lastly, can I get a decent sound for violin (our music should have a darker, warmer tone than say fiddle) using the mics that I have.  SHould I look into a ribbon?  Would a ribbon require a preamp such as the peavey?

Sorry for bombarding with all the questions!  Feel free to only answer what you have time for.

Thanks
Title: Re: "Big" sounding mic pres.
Post by: Trumpetman2 on August 26, 2004, 07:04:55 PM
 Laughing  Very Happy  Shocked Guys:  How about that new Safe Sound jobbie...?  I read a review that said it was the cat's meow...not so?
Title: Re: "Big" sounding mic pres.
Post by: Warhead on August 26, 2004, 11:18:19 PM
I think it's the cat's meow but I'm biased! I use 2 P1's every day in my project studio.

War
Title: Re: "Big" sounding mic pres.
Post by: dejacky on August 31, 2004, 04:16:17 AM
i heard an mp3 of vocals thru seventh circle audio ' s J99 mic pre and it sounded rather 3d and "rich" to me anyways Smile.
Title: Re: "Big" sounding mic pres.
Post by: hargerst on August 31, 2004, 03:39:52 PM
In answer to all these questions, the RNP is not exactly a "warm" preamp, but it is slightly on the "fat" side.  It's high end extension is what does it for me.  Warmer would be the Great River MP-1NV or the Safe Sounds P1.  I wouldn't get rid of the VMP-2 just yet.

And yes, I'd get a Peavey preamp for the Persian family music, and the mics you have should work fine.  Placement is everything, so take your time experimenting.
Title: Re: "Big" sounding mic pres.
Post by: Dot on September 18, 2004, 01:11:38 AM
Some big sounding dual pres in the $1Kish area are the Vintech Dual 72  and the Sebatron vmp-2000e.
Title: Re: "Big" sounding mic pres.
Post by: screws on September 18, 2004, 01:28:59 PM
Chris L wrote on Mon, 03 May 2004 19:20

Right now I have a peavey vmp-2 that I'll probably be selling. I like the sound I'm getting on it from guitars and bass, but on drums (kick and snare) it just wasn't fast enough for me. Didn't get a really good crack or a defining kick sound.

I want to get a 'fat' sounding dual mono pre under 1k. Are there any worth considering in that price range?


I too started with just the Peavey VMP-2. But I ended up buying the Seventh Circle Audio rack with a pair of N72's (a Neve 1272 clone, similar to the Vintech 1272) and a pair of J99's (a clone of the Hardy Twin Servo 990)

Read a review here:

http://www.3daudioinc.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_top ic&f=1&t=000846

The point is, you can start with a rack and power supply with 1 or 2 modules, and then add more of the same or different flavors as you are able. I am personally looking forward to a pair of the A12's which are an API 312 clone.

Good hunting.