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snooky

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Best Eq of all times - or a cunning hoax??
« on: October 24, 2005, 04:23:46 PM »

Here is a system claiming to be able to restore imperfect hearing, and also claims to be able to de-emphasise low grade consumer audio gear or some nonsense like that...pricetag(s) are up there with algorithmix, but the info is like something out of a fantasy startreck movie.
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http://refinedaudiometrics.com/pages/1/index.htm

http://refinedaudiometrics.com/images/460_RAL-1200.JPG


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Some swear by the freebie EQ available as the best EQ of all times, others think it's a hoax...any takers?


free EQ.
http://www.museresearch.com/kvr/i/b/plpareq1.jpg

the blurb:

PLParEQ1 is a stereo 1-band "ultra-high quality" Parametric Equalizer filter.

Feature highlights:

   * Internal 88.2/96kHz processing (even for 44.1/48kHz external sample rates).
   * Stereo LPF, BPF, BRF, HPF, Peaking/dipping, LowShelf, HiShelf.
   * Phase-Linear or traditional phase-warped filtering.


this all seems very fishy to me Confused
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snooky

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Re: Best Eq of all times - or a cunning hoax??
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2005, 07:39:35 PM »

right, it seems they have released a 4 band version of their free plug and more ppl is getting into it as a really fine EQ...hm.
I'm still not convinced tho'
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Re: Best Eq of all times - or a cunning hoax??
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2005, 06:50:16 AM »

I am the author of these systems. Why do you suppose that it is a hoax? Have you actually tried any of our DSP technology?

Cheers, DM
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Re: Best Eq of all times - or a cunning hoax??
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2005, 06:59:46 AM »

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Re: Best Eq of all times - or a cunning hoax??
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2005, 09:07:26 AM »

you can work on the userinterface.. it reminds me on my old atari days;)

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Re: Best Eq of all times - or a cunning hoax??
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2005, 12:41:47 AM »

Demo mixes to Pro results
LOW rates,...
email me
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Re: Best Eq of all times - or a cunning hoax??
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2005, 10:10:46 PM »

Another plug in.... Mad
Computers can't reproduce the nuance of analog EQ. The beauty of the process of artistry is the random qualities of all parts wanted or unwanted
Here is a question to make my point
Can a computer generate a random stream of #'s ?

The ansewer is NO!
At some point it will repeat the process
The best place for digital is its control over the analog process e.g.
I think Euphonics made this point more eloquently than I can
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Re: Best Eq of all times - or a cunning hoax??
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2005, 02:25:28 AM »

Hot Smoke and Sassafras!
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Re: Best Eq of all times - or a cunning hoax??
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2005, 09:11:18 PM »

Bubblepuppy wrote on Tue, 15 November 2005 22:10

Can a computer generate a random stream of #'s ?


Well enough to fool a human?...perhaps.
Sony digital EQ is considered "OK" by many respected engineers,  as are several other brands, in case you hadn't heard.

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Re: Best Eq of all times - or a cunning hoax??
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2005, 07:09:47 AM »

Bubblepuppy wrote on Wed, 16 November 2005 03:10

Another plug in.... Mad
Computers can't reproduce the nuance of analog EQ. The beauty of the process of artistry is the random qualities of all parts wanted or unwanted
Here is a question to make my point
Can a computer generate a random stream of #'s ?

The ansewer is NO!
At some point it will repeat the process
The best place for digital is its control over the analog process e.g.
I think Euphonics made this point more eloquently than I can



some year ago someone said the same thing about tape-recorders vs digital. You can't stop evolution Smile

ps Computers can't now, but they could. It is only a processing power issue...
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Re: Best Eq of all times - or a cunning hoax??
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2006, 04:45:12 PM »

leban (giancarlo) wrote on Tue, 06 December 2005 05:09

Computers can't now, but they could. It is only a processing power issue...


Well, if they would stop wasting all the power they do have on things like, booting up, print drivers, email clients, word prossesors, etc.  Maybe they could.  I hate computers and all their "bloat wear"  I wish I had the time and money to learn Lynix.
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Re: Best Eq of all times - or a cunning hoax??
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2006, 11:08:50 AM »

Chad wrote on Sat, 07 January 2006 21:45

leban (giancarlo) wrote on Tue, 06 December 2005 05:09

Computers can't now, but they could. It is only a processing power issue...


Well, if they would stop wasting all the power they do have on things like, booting up, print drivers, email clients, word prossesors, etc.  Maybe they could.  I hate computers and all their "bloat wear"  I wish I had the time and money to learn Lynix.


Well the first step would be to learn how to spell "Linux". Smile
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Re: Best Eq of all times - or a cunning hoax??
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2006, 11:33:37 AM »

Chad wrote on Sat, 07 January 2006 21:45

leban (giancarlo) wrote on Tue, 06 December 2005 05:09

Computers can't now, but they could. It is only a processing power issue...


Well, if they would stop wasting all the power they do have on things like, booting up, print drivers, email clients, word prossesors, etc.  Maybe they could.  I hate computers and all their "bloat wear"  I wish I had the time and money to learn Lynix.


You can disable a lot of "bloat wear" tuning it. And you can avoid word processor installations, you can disconnect it from internet, and so on. For example on my studio pc I have only 3-5% cpu wasted. Linux could be better but I don't think 95% free or 97% could make a real difference. On my opinion, if one only pc should replace ALL your hardware studio you need at least a 100 teraherz processor, or even more. All that electronics, lights, valves, ... So developers at the moment are looking for a trade-off between quality and cpu usage. You can translate a moog ladder from schematics to algorithms, but at least you should make some semplifications/approssimations. Or you should use all your pc for a filter and you should turn off your sequencer. But it is like brain vs computers. Brain is powerful, but a computer can do calculations better and faster. You could not have at the moment the exact replica for your LA-2A, but you could open in real-time 10 Linmb. Bouncing tracks, even 100 instances. Using a computer you could get more. In the past engeneers were afraid about tape noise and editing time. Now we haven't noise and we have a fast editing and we are looking for tape colour. We'll get tape colour soon and we'll need analog lows, we'll get analog low frequencies and we'll need 12 bit distortion...
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Re: Best Eq of all times - or a cunning hoax??
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2006, 05:03:17 PM »

Hi,

there is no best sounding EQ, may it be hard or soft.
Get yourself some extremely good monitors and you can mix with any EQ that you can lay your bloody hands on.

You can only control what you here.

Best wishes
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Re: Best Eq of all times - or a cunning hoax??
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2006, 12:30:29 AM »

NoWo wrote on Thu, 02 February 2006 22:03

Hi,

there is no best sounding EQ, may it be hard or soft.
Get yourself some extremely good monitors and you can mix with any EQ that you can lay your bloody hands on.

You can only control what you here.

Best wishes


even though I agree with this statment in general, it has not worked for me ITB as of yet...   I could just not get confortable with any of my EQing options... I have Waves renn EQs and URS... .both are nice and have been getting the job done, but again did not have the same cozy feeling as when I was working my console...  

....BUT I just got the waves SSL eqs, and I am pretty happy... for the first time ITB I feel comfortable cranking some frequencies without the source getting thin and brittle on me...   until the now, the URS have been my go to EQs... but the WAVES seem a little more thick when you start working those knobs....err...circles on the the screen Smile

so even though I agree it's the person not the tools that makes records, sometimes it's just easier when you find the tools that suite your needs...

r.
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