Fenris2 wrote on Thu, 27 October 2005 18:34 |
This is a list I made up of features Nuendo has that Pro Tools lacks:
Unlimited tracks (200+ on a well-equipped system) Support for third-party DSP cards: UAD-1, PowerCore, Scope Distributed processing with VST System Link or FX Teleport, for unlimited DSP power Non-partitioned DSP (no chip limitations on plug-in size) Simultaneous editing of multiple events Overlapping events Waveforms are visible when dragging Real-time fades Snap-to-zero Mixer presets Assignable key commands Sample-accurate automation Offline processes such as Envelope Offline Process History and Track Freeze, with unlimited undo Full MIDI capabilities Superior MIDI timing (with Linear Time Base interfaces) Sample-accurate slaving to tape (with the optional Time Base synchronizer) Customizable hardware control Open architecture, open standards, and support for third-party hardware AES-31 support for universal file exchange Faster than realtime export 32-bit floating-point mixer Support for 32-bit float files, stereo interleaved files, and multiple bit depths 64-bit float plug-ins 32-bit float plug-in bus (significantly less degradation than PT's 24-bit fixed plug-in bus ... this is the main source of degradation in PT)
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is all this true? sorry, i am not a nuendo user, but i have SEEN it work and i was impressed. when i jumped in, nuendo wasn't around...so i stayed with PT, and am happy.
here is what i am not sure about:
"32-bit floating-point mixer"
24-bit signals,in PT are multiplied by 24-bit coefficients and summed to an output pair at 48-bits (dual precision). and the MIXER is a 56 bit accumulator.
Aux Inputs in PT handle signals the same was as audio tracks, they just don't have a disk track associated with them. So, signals arrive at the mixer plug-in as 24 bit signals, and are multiplied by 24-bit coefficients that represent gain and pan and are summed to an output pair at 48-bits where dither is applied and then
truncated to 24-bits for output to the DACs. the outputs, (bus or HW) are 24....but that still gives you 144dB of range so the dithering (of the LSB) is well below the noise floor.
isn't a 48 bit mixer better than or at least as good as 32-bit floating?
"Simultaneous editing of multiple events"
meaning? is this somehow different than what you can do in PT with groups etc?
"Overlapping events"
meaning? like tracks? playlists? can you explain this? and tell me how it is something i cannot do in PT?
"Waveforms are visible when dragging"
meaning you can see the waveform move along the timeline as you drag a region? in PT if you drag, teh region moves and then when you let go the WF snaps into position. but i use NUDGE all the time. WF's move then.
"Real-time fades"
meaning? i can make fades as things play back, as i mix. can you explain what PT lacks here?
"Snap-to-zero"
i can snap to zero in PT.
"Mixer presets"
how is this different than templates or importing session data with mixer presets from another session or template?
"Assignable key commands"
this is doable in PT.
"Sample-accurate automation"
hunh? PT's automation is not capable of Sample-accurate automation.
i am not being hostile, i want to be educated. obviously, both platforms are great!
does Nuendo have Playlists? i use thos ALL the time! there must be some stuff that PT has that Nuendo doesn't.
i purchased an HD|2 Accel. i mix 120 tracks of a film mix, in 5.1, 10 aux channels. 8 stem printing tracks, with 4 outboard reverbs, 3 HW EQ and Comp inserts, TONS of high quality plugs, WITH 1 % PULL DOWN, ADC to keep everyone in line -- even the HW inserts! frame-edge accurate with HIGH RESOLUTION picture.
on a GD dual 2.5 with 2 internal SATA drives.
i can also do BIG music mixes on it.
i guess i don't know new, 'cause i did a trade-in...
HD|2 - let's say 10k
192 - let's say 4K
sync i/o (is their HW that allows NUENDO TO PULL?) 2K
that's only 16k...
plug-ins....eeesh....
anyway, i need a highly PRO solution. PT seems like a pretty good deal with stuff like that.