| Johnny B wrote on Sun, 16 October 2005 06:30 |
Jon,
Emmm, he's probably seen far more of everything than you have, but maybe you already know everthing there is to know.
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No, I was simply pointing out that a wide bandwidth, whilst it might lead us to expect a linear phase response in lower bands, is no guarantee of it.
To know for certain, and thus make the statement you quoted with validity, one would have to see more technical information than is available on the Sanken site.
So therefore I asked if he'd seen that information.
Your response would indicate to me that he has seen more than we have as regards the Sanken mic, so can he share this information? EricS for one would love to know.
| Johnny B wrote on Sun, 16 October 2005 06:30 |
Look, if you are biased already against even investigating or testing Sanken's new 100kHz mic, that's ok with me. This bias would comport with your theory against higher sample rates.
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Strange, I haven't told anyone not to try this microphone, I have also said that there is every chance it sounds fabulous, I have simply pointed out that people should not simply swallow the marketing line - even if it does pander to their egos by implying that they'd be "exceptional engineers" if they bought it, as to what the reasons are for that sound.
I've also suggested that the very wide and high bump in the response is not indicative of an attempt at faithfull reproduction, but rather intentional colouring. The truth is that the output of this mic will sound brighter than most, even if you shoved in a brick wall filter at 18kHz
In short, a microphone with 100kHz bandwidth may sound fabulous, but that isn't NECCESSARILY due to the bandwidth.
| Johnny B wrote on Sun, 16 October 2005 06:30 |
Perhaps you also buy into the wildly speculative theory which says all the chip maker's are engaged in a giant illegal conspiracy to sell higher sample rate chips, which, of course, is totally preposterous on its face.
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This as opposed to the theories I've seen someone post as to how digital audio is all an evil conspiracy by music hating mathmeticians and engineers lying to people to make them buy into formats and hardware which will torture people's ears?
Chip companies will design and build what sells. There was a time when you could buy 20bit and 24bit ADCs fron the same manufacturer, and they both had the same linearity. So in effect the lower 4 bits were just a consumer placebo, which you paid for.
And as I understand it, there is nothing illegal about this. As long as they do not make any claims which are untrue, then they are perfectly within their rights to make a 1 GHz 64 bit converter, and sell it to any sucker who'll buy it.
And there's no conspiracy, just market forces. There are enough people convinced that higher sampling rates sound better, or who can be convinced by good marketing, that it's a worthwhile market for a manufacturer to tackle, whether the consumer benefits or not.
| Johnny B wrote on Sun, 16 October 2005 06:30 |
If you believe that's true, I suggest you make a call to the US Department of Justice and have an investigation launched. Of course, the fact that there are no prosecutions of the chip makers or trials going on seems to lean in favor of this giant conspiracy theory having little or no merit.
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How's the class action going?
