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[RMoore]

Another thing that's amazing is the auction is still active on Ebay (as per 03:30 EST Sept 8th) - you'd think it'd be in Ebay's interest to pull it asap.

[robk]

Ryan Moore wrote on Wed, 08 September 2004 08:31

...you'd think it'd be in Ebay's interest to pull it asap.

Only thing in eBay's interest is the auction fees.

I've bought and sold a fair bit on UK eBay over the past couple of years - but it's gone downhill noticeably over recent months.  Many more scammers (most of them 'power sellers'), nowhere near as many buyers - very slow.  My local post office says their eBay shipping trade has dropped to a fraction of what it was.

Perhaps eBay will spot the trends and put its house in order?   ...not holding my breath!

Rob Kirkwood
www.visibleform.co.uk

[Peter Simonsen]

Ryan Moore wrote on Wed, 08 September 2004 08:31

Another thing that's amazing is the auction is still active on Ebay (as per 03:30 EST Sept 8th) - you'd think it'd be in Ebay's interest to pull it asap.

Its not only amazing i mean..Its a totally new Auction now.. The pic of Lynn is gone..and No bids as of now..

Kind regards

Peter

[vanimal]

Now it is a new one here http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=37472 08748
Not to worry, gallant bidder "BOGUS_Manley_DONT_BID" has come to the rescue... and sent by email TWO MORE LETTERS TO eBay/Vero, as per Erik's advice....

Erik, FYI, the Ranger-Vero thing was a free automated search thing that they steered me into to do the searches and file the complaints through when I signed up with Vero. That's all I knew from what when I wuz doing them. But now it's gone. So I dug up copies of those email forms (as they always were cc'd to me) and found the right (I hope) email addy at ebay to send those forms to. So that's what I did. TWICE. Cuz the Slammer-Scammer relisted his auction sans Lynn's purty face while I wuz typing out more letters.

It is 3am late. Must sleep. More anti-scam-war at 7....

[George Massenburg]

Tomas Danko wrote on Tue, 07 September 2004 15:35

[...] Danko Ps.... Darn, does this mean I shouldn't do the deal on E-bay on that Sony desk by some guy who calls himself George somewhere in Metzlersburg or whatever it was? And I thought I had the deal of a lifetime. *sigh*

Well uh, yes actually, the used price of the OXF-R has indeed dropped to US$899.00.  Sad but true...

George

[JGreenslade]

When I first started seeing bogus auctions on ebay they seemed to be "based" in the Far-East, however, just about every pro-audio scam I've seen of late claimed to be selling from London, why on earth is that?

Being based in London myself I'm wondering if this fellow would like to meet up in person for the transaction? I could really use a SLAM for

[tom eaton]

Ignorance knows no bounds...a few weeks ago a gentleman tried to sell me MY OWN CONSOLE using photos from a broker's website of the console I had recently purchased.  It was sitting in my control room while he was e-mailing me its particulars.

Oh well.

-tom

[Lynn Fuston]

TER wrote on Wed, 08 September 2004 08:25

a few weeks ago a gentleman tried to sell me MY OWN CONSOLE using photos from a broker's website of the console I had recently purchased.  It was sitting in my control room while he was e-mailing me its particulars.

Now that IS rich!

[Lynn Fuston]

George Massenburg wrote on Wed, 08 September 2004 06:02

Tomas Danko wrote on Tue, 07 September 2004 15:35 [...] Danko Ps.... Darn, does this mean I shouldn't do the deal on E-bay on that Sony desk by some guy who calls himself George somewhere in Metzlersburg or whatever it was? And I thought I had the deal of a lifetime. *sigh* Well uh, yes actually, the used price of the OXF-R has indeed dropped to US$899.00.  Sad but true... George

George,

Do you get 5 free Sony DVDs with that, as a buyer's incentive?

[George Massenburg]

Lynn Fuston wrote on Wed, 08 September 2004 09:49

George Massenburg wrote on Wed, 08 September 2004 06:02 Tomas Danko wrote on Tue, 07 September 2004 15:35 [...] Danko Ps.... Darn, does this mean I shouldn't do the deal on E-bay on that Sony desk by some guy who calls himself George somewhere in Metzlersburg or whatever it was? And I thought I had the deal of a lifetime. *sigh* Well uh, yes actually, the used price of the OXF-R has indeed dropped to US$899.00.  Sad but true... George, Do you get 5 free Sony DVDs with that, as a buyer's incentive?

From Sony?  Which Sony?  There are still more "divisions" than you can count.  From Sony, Japan you get the latest corporate line, which is to commit to exactly nothing - nothing except vacant promises, neglected products and shallow marketing campaigns.

I don't know maybe I'm a little sensitive...

George

[Tomas Danko]

George Massenburg wrote on Wed, 08 September 2004 12:02

Tomas Danko wrote on Tue, 07 September 2004 15:35 [...] Danko Ps.... Darn, does this mean I shouldn't do the deal on E-bay on that Sony desk by some guy who calls himself George somewhere in Metzlersburg or whatever it was? And I thought I had the deal of a lifetime. *sigh* Well uh, yes actually, the used price of the OXF-R has indeed dropped to US$899.00.  Sad but true... George

I hear you, Mr. Massenburg. Some companies cannot spell the word "commitment" properly. Talking about the blowout deal of the century...

Wanna trade with my Allen & Heath Saber? No? It can't go 192 kHz either.

Regards,

Danko

[Eric Rudd]

What cracks me up is that Ebay charges a fee, and if you make your payment through Paypal, they get a fee. Since they're both the same company, you're getting it from both ends. Might as well buy a car from a dealer with dealer financing.

Eric

[Level]

EveAnna, you need to re-bid. Looks like that clown took your bid off.

[vanimal]

I bid again... and then he retracted my bid with Explanation: "this is the scammer"...and so I bid again... and then he retracted my bid again with Explanation: "because is scammer !!!!!", and so I bid again... and retracted my own bids and then bid again and so now that auction has some nice bid retraction history even if he retracts me again... someone gotta be "real dum" to now try to go win that auction!

Many of us have sent more and more complaints to ebay to no avail.... they could care less.

Vero complaints sent have received NO action either.

I have done all I can to try to protect people on this now. I can warrant my gear. I will not be able to honour warranty on non-existing equipment nor stupidity/ignorance/wishful thinking....

[Level]

On scams like this, I have seen people bid $5,000,000 and then someone else (planned) bid "a few million more" so it "shows up" as a high bid. This certainly gets ebays attention. Since we all KNOW this piece does not exsist, I don't think ebay will hold you to anything and they may just charge the seller the huge fee (percentage) for the sale!

Interesting saga. I hope Scotland yard finds this person and shackles them up for a few years of stale chips.

PS, I don't know the legal ramifications of bidding millions of dollars on something. Certainly, ebay can't hold you to an item that does not exsist. The fake serial number is the key.