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Allen Corneau

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Re: Clone Wars: IP theft (was Sontec thread)
« Reply #45 on: February 06, 2011, 09:22:57 PM »

Joe_Caithness wrote on Sun, 06 February 2011 17:47


I think this is the post I most agree with, I don't call mine a Sontec, it's not, it's not built by them and therefore isn't, pretty simple.

(snip)

In my mind that seems far enough removed, an is no way advertised or talked about with clients as "A Sontec".


I don't know, Joe. It's cutting it awfully close, but your website seems to speak otherwise...

"Custom built "250" : Equalizer based on the classic MEP250 parametric mastering EQ from way back, brought into the future with awesome mastering mods and stepped attenuators. By Mark Watson"
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Re: Clone Wars: IP theft (was Sontec thread)
« Reply #46 on: February 07, 2011, 07:24:34 AM »

Allen Corneau wrote on Mon, 07 February 2011 02:22

Joe_Caithness wrote on Sun, 06 February 2011 17:47


I think this is the post I most agree with, I don't call mine a Sontec, it's not, it's not built by them and therefore isn't, pretty simple.

(snip)

In my mind that seems far enough removed, an is no way advertised or talked about with clients as "A Sontec".


I don't know, Joe. It's cutting it awfully close, but your website seems to speak otherwise...

"Custom built "250" : Equalizer based on the classic MEP250 parametric mastering EQ from way back, brought into the future with awesome mastering mods and stepped attenuators. By Mark Watson"


I would have thought the language and grammar used shows this is not trying to replicate the original, the use of speech marks, language such as "based on" and no mention of the S word anywhere.

I have seen, in the past at least, MEs go on the record calling these things Sontec Clones, which have made an effort not to.

PS, here it is for anyone interested:


A link to a GS hosted image: http://www.gearslutz.com/board/attachments/mastering-forum/2 04970d1290442736t-my-first-analogue-eq-top-open.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v687/joe_caithness/Front.jpg?t=1284460029
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Re: Clone Wars: IP theft (was Sontec thread)
« Reply #47 on: February 07, 2011, 03:06:20 PM »

Mine is a Xontec or a Zontec, haven't decide yet.
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Re: Clone Wars: IP theft (was Sontec thread)
« Reply #48 on: February 08, 2011, 02:45:04 PM »

z0/\/t3k?

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Re: Clone Wars: IP theft (was Sontec thread)
« Reply #49 on: February 08, 2011, 03:58:10 PM »

I'd love to  custom build the 'Dietrich' eq.

Dangerous/Muth build with current DM switches. Sontec op amps, stereo gang control,
4 bands, transformer in/out with bypass options on the transformers each way. M/S switchable internally. black on black. super dim lights to show engaged
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Re: Clone Wars: IP theft (was Sontec thread)
« Reply #50 on: February 08, 2011, 04:32:03 PM »

dietrich wrote on Tue, 08 February 2011 21:58


4 bands


I think you want 6. Plus 2 shelves.
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Re: Clone Wars: IP theft (was Sontec thread)
« Reply #51 on: February 08, 2011, 05:18:14 PM »

24-96 Mastering wrote on Tue, 08 February 2011 16:32

dietrich wrote on Tue, 08 February 2011 21:58


4 bands


I think you want 6. Plus 2 shelves.



I have the Bax for shelving and other eq options for those 2 bands.
the 'dietrich' eq is what i need next

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Re: Clone Wars: IP theft (was Sontec thread)
« Reply #52 on: February 08, 2011, 05:21:13 PM »

though adding an extra tube mid band on the unit would be pretty hot

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Re: Clone Wars: IP theft (was Sontec thread)
« Reply #53 on: February 08, 2011, 07:33:19 PM »

dietrich wrote on Wed, 09 February 2011 08:51

though adding an extra tube mid band on the unit would be pretty hot


Yes that is what I have been thinking- a bandaxall circuit with Op-Amps for the and hi and low shelves, and then a bandaxall tube design (much like the Fairman or Klein and Hummel original 1960s circuit) for a couple of mid peak/dip bands.

If the BAX had just one mid band it would be perfect...

Apparently Gyraf are working on a tube EQ similar to the K&H UE100.
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Re: Clone Wars: IP theft (was Sontec thread)
« Reply #54 on: February 08, 2011, 08:31:15 PM »

24-96 Mastering wrote on Tue, 08 February 2011 16:32


I think you want 6. Plus 2 shelves.

I see what you did there. That's what I want. Would it be overkill to use a Bax with "that"?
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Re: Clone Wars: IP theft (was Sontec thread)
« Reply #55 on: February 10, 2011, 02:46:46 PM »

Bonati wrote on Wed, 09 February 2011 02:31

24-96 Mastering wrote on Tue, 08 February 2011 16:32


I think you want 6. Plus 2 shelves.

I see what you did there. That's what I want. Would it be overkill to use a Bax with "that"?


I don't know, to be honest. I haven't used the Bax, but also haven't really used shelves for 'tilting' much in the past... so the shelves on the 462 haven't yet seen much use for that purpose either.
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Re: Clone Wars: IP theft (was Sontec thread)
« Reply #56 on: February 19, 2011, 06:33:26 AM »

Should be with me within 2 weeks now, exciting ; )

I sold some boxes to make way in the rack.
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Re: Clone Wars: IP theft (was Sontec thread)
« Reply #57 on: February 19, 2011, 08:48:36 AM »

SafeandSound wrote on Sat, 19 February 2011 12:33

Should be with me within 2 weeks now, exciting ; )

I sold some boxes to make way in the rack.


"Never sell the Old before you have received the New."

(rule #17, Practical Guidelines for Gear Acquisition, Schmidt, MMXI)
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Re: Clone Wars: IP theft (was Sontec thread)
« Reply #58 on: February 19, 2011, 12:41:18 PM »

24-96 Mastering wrote on Sat, 19 February 2011 15:48

"Never sell the Old before you have received the New."

(rule #17, Practical Guidelines for Gear Acquisition, Schmidt, MMXI)


I sold my passive EQ to Jonas, and when he arrived to pick it up, I was "just finishing up the new one" - I.E, I had a temporary panel with attenuators on it.

Took me a year before I got the new one finished up, and Jonas was using my EQ. Grr.
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Re: Clone Wars: IP theft (was Sontec thread)
« Reply #59 on: February 19, 2011, 12:51:51 PM »

Yes I guess so.

It was a 2u mic preamp that went to make space, no great loss.
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