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[bigbone]

Podgorny wrote on Wed, 19 January 2011 10:07

bigbone wrote on Mon, 17 January 2011 18:24 Is that mean it's not part of the audio community...... Jean, I know you're not a native English speaker, so perhaps I'm misinterpreting you; Some of your posts come off as supercilious. You might want to be careful about that (unless you're doing it intentionally, in which case, cut it out). So no, it DOESN'T mean it's not part of the audio community.  I just thought for the sake of avoiding confusion, it should be noted  that this event happened nearly a year ago.

I don't need a lecture about my post, if you don't like it don't read it.

I don't like the way you said English is not my native language, i'm not supercilious,  but your answer sound like it........

JN

[Fibes]

It said they were using cracks.

Waves is fucked in the head but in this case it appears they were justified.

I now have Waves stuff on the studio computer because my assistant insists we have it there but he owns it and it's legit.

I will not buy their software again their practices are mindboggling and not worth the price of admission and downloading giant bungles for a few plugs every few months.

[rphilbeck]

WAVES is smart enough to know where the money is in this business....litigation:)

[joeyhavoc]

rphilbeck wrote on Thu, 20 January 2011 07:59

WAVES is smart enough to know where the money is in this business....litigation:)

Unfortunately, that may be true for album sales as well.

joe

[MagnetoSound]

Fibes wrote on Thu, 20 January 2011 00:54

I will not buy their software again their practices are mindboggling and not worth the price of admission and downloading giant bungles for a few plugs every few months.

A Freudian slip worth quoting!  

[Edward Vinatea]

To me this is a personal shock because I've been to both NY studios and I can't believe they would even need to work with cracked software in the first place. Without giving specifics, I visited the Skyline studio when Duran Duran was recording one of their albums in the late 80's {I got star-struck by John Taylor that day too}. That studio and the folks that run it go way back, so this Waves lawsuit seems so hard to believe   . I am a registered Waves user and contrary to what some people on some forums say about their products, I use Waves since the 90's and thus, I am inclined to say that this was something that was really needed to make a big point.

Regards,

Edward

[Podgorny]

bigbone wrote on Wed, 19 January 2011 18:35

I don't need a lecture about my post, if you don't like it don't read it.

How exactly does one know whether they will like a post if they do not read it?

Look, I don't know what exactly your problem is - all I did was make a note about the date, and that doesn't warrant you giving all kinds of attitude.  I'm thinking perhaps there IS a language barrier here, because certainly you're not INTENDING to come across in such an aggressive manner.

[mrufino1]

Edward Vinatea wrote on Thu, 20 January 2011 10:22

I visited the Skyline studio when Duran Duran was recording one of their albums in the late 80's {I got star-struck by John Taylor that day too}. That studio and the folks that run it go way back, so this Waves lawsuit seems so hard to believe

I recorded a very small project at Skyline a few years ago (as a musician- my only recording in a big studio like that), and I do know it is different ownership than in the 80's, so not the same people. I do also know there was some issues with one of the former employees who was involved in our project; I have no idea if this falls under that or not. I don't really know any details of that employee's situation but he didn't work there for too much longer and I was led to believe there was some dishonesty on his part that led to his release. I enjoyed working with the studio owners in the few days we had, they knew their stuff and I learned a lot by watching.

[Sean Eldon Qualls]

I've spent some time at Skyline, and it's hard to believe Ron or Jonathan would be directly involved in pirating plugins...if I had to guess, I'd say it was a visiting engineer or an assistant/intern who put the cracks on their machine. But I don't know anything about this situation outside of what the article states.

Plenty of hardware in that room, too...

[faganking]

I worked extensively at Skyline back in the early and mid 80's. When Nile Rogers had a little office there. Great room, staff and gear. But that was a long time ago!

[J.J. Blair]

Nevermind.

[zmix]

J.J. Blair wrote on Thu, 20 January 2011 13:09

Nevermind.

Killer album.


...till you hear this...

[joeyhavoc]

zmix wrote on Thu, 20 January 2011 17:21

J.J. Blair wrote on Thu, 20 January 2011 13:09 Nevermind. Killer album. ...till you hear this...

Or The Damned, Life Goes On...

Back on topic.  Why exactly do people dislike the company Waves so much?  Isn't their successful lawsuit against copyright infringement a "good thing" for our industry?  I seem to be missing some context here.

[J.J. Blair]

Waves has been roundly disliked for their WUP policy, which was horrendously bad business, IMO.  After some intervention by a PSW member, it was made less draconian, but I find it unfriendly enough that I will not buy their products, and I discourage those who seek my advice, based solely on the WUP situation.

I have no problem with their software, but when I have to pay somebody money to make something compatible, not for new features, I find it bad customer service.  They are not the only company.  This happened with Sonnox, too, but Waves embodies this practice for me.  And then when I had an iLock go bad, the only company where it was a pain in the ass to get my licenses off was Waves.  

In terms of what happened at Skyline, their were some tactics on Waves part that showed them to be a little too eager to seek a legal remedy.  I can't even imagine Microsoft sending people in with hidden cameras to get people to show them their cracked software.  

[Jay Kadis]

We used to use Waves software - at the time it was the best.  But I couldn't keep up with the upgrades in a teaching environment due to their user-unfriendly system.  Now there are plenty of great alternatives.