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[plughead]

Was just listening to Deguello (on vinyl) with my 10 yr old son: noticed Terry AND Bob Ludwig credited as engineers on that album. Did you share seats at points in time, or were you filling in for one another, Terry?

I love the sound of Cheap Sunglasses on vinyl. I also love that my 10 year old is into pulling out albums, sitting on the carpet in front of the stereo, and intently listening to everything from beginning to end.

Does that image remind any of you of something we too often miss in the current generation?  

[minister]

http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/t/3849/0/??SQ=&am p;S=755385ba38a73e8c8045d1df508117ae

which is in here:

http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/f/40/11603/

Happy Reading.

[Duhduh]

PlugHead wrote on Sat, 16 August 2008 15:16

...pulling out albums, sitting on the carpet in front of the stereo, and intently listening to everything from beginning to end.

Wow. That scenario is exactly how I discovered The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Yes, Cheech & Chong, Return to Forever, Frank Zappa, John Hartford, Dan Hicks & His Hot Licks, etc, etc...

Fond memories!

Which reminds me, I've been meaning to ask you, Terry - How does one get those totally bone dry drums sounds? I absolutely love that sound and would really like to be able to get it myself.

[marcel]

minister wrote on Sat, 16 August 2008 12:54

http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/t/3849/0/??SQ=&am p;am p;S=755385ba38a73e8c8045d1df508117ae which is in here: http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/f/40/11603/ Happy Reading.

That is one of the all-time greatest PSW threads.

The keys to the kingdom, truly.

[compasspnt]

Hey guys,

As for the credits:

The person in charge of ZZ Top at that time didn't fully understand the difference in "Engineering" and "Mastering."

I completely recorded and mixed the album, and then took it to NYC where Bob and I mastered it at Masterdisk.


As for "bone dry drum sounds," it helps to have a bone dry drummer, and some bone dry drums.  Microphones are good, but reverb might not help.

[wwittman]

bones actually aren't that dry.
at least when still in a live body...

[willowhaus]

minister wrote on Sat, 16 August 2008 14:54

http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/t/3849/0/??SQ=&am p;am p;S=755385ba38a73e8c8045d1df508117ae which is in here: http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/f/40/11603/ Happy Reading.

Wow. Thanks for that - truly an awesome thread!

I had no idea Terry did those records - some of the greatest sounds of my misspent youth!  Excellent stuff!

[Brian Kehew]

marcel wrote on Sat, 16 August 2008 12:45

minister wrote on Sat, 16 August 2008 12:54   http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/t/3849/0/??SQ=&am p;am p;am p;S=755385ba38a73e8c8045d1df508117ae which is in here: http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/f/40/11603/ Happy Reading. That is one of the all-time greatest PSW threads. The keys to the kingdom, truly.

Yep, this is when I came in here as a fulltime member.

Bone-dry drums? Just put shag carpeting onto every floor, wall, or ceiling in a small room. Simple!

[plughead]

compasspnt wrote on Sat, 16 August 2008 18:44

Hey guys, As for the credits: The person in charge of ZZ Top at that time didn't fully understand the difference in "Engineering" and "Mastering." I completely recorded and mixed the album, and then took it to NYC where Bob and I mastered it at Masterdisk.

It's kinda as I expected: I thought Bob L was already well established as a mastering house: as always, never let the manager be the proof-reader!

BTW - sorry I didn't totally search/read thru all the other threads - not enough time (and a few too many kids!) to read everything!

thx Terry,