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Hallams

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Re: arsenal audio by API??
« Reply #30 on: June 25, 2008, 08:52:07 PM »

Berolzheimer wrote on Fri, 20 June 2008 09:59

J-Texas wrote on Thu, 19 June 2008 13:17

Nice ass.  Confused


Yes what exactly are you trying to say here?


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Re: arsenal audio by API??
« Reply #31 on: June 26, 2008, 03:55:13 AM »

After reading a lot of material, I am under the impression that Arsenal will not be cheaper or of less quality.  According to API, the engineers there wanted to expand beyond the classic circuits and classic gear, to design something new and fresh.  As API's reputation is built on the classics only, the Arsenal brand is a means of letting those engineers take their new designs to market.

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Re: arsenal audio by API??
« Reply #32 on: June 26, 2008, 08:40:48 AM »

But I thought it was not a new design at all, rather a different 30-ish year old design from a former competitor...?
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Re: arsenal audio by API??
« Reply #33 on: June 26, 2008, 11:14:22 AM »

I couldn't edit this text as it is actually an image.  It is from the Arsenal Audio site.



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Re: arsenal audio by API??
« Reply #34 on: June 26, 2008, 01:27:28 PM »



The curiosity was killing me so I emailed them and asked about country of manufacture.  This was the reply:

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Hi Rick:

They are made kind of all over the place. We have multiple places where they are made. They are not made in China. They are final assembled and tested here at the API factory.

Best regards

Mark , Arsenal Audio



Vague but appreciated.

SO my guess is they are having cases and pcb's made up off shore and at least assembling under US quality control... seems like a good trade-off to keep costs down.



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Re: arsenal audio by API??
« Reply #35 on: June 28, 2008, 06:20:20 PM »

Personally I don't give a fuck where they're made... as long as it's good and reliable I really have no issue if they're made with child labor in some 3rd world shithole... then again my high school yearbook quote was by Jorma Kaukonen "I don't care if there is DDT in my lettuce... as long as it's crisp"
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Re: arsenal audio by API??
« Reply #36 on: June 29, 2008, 03:02:51 PM »

just curious, are these discreet?
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Re: arsenal audio by API??
« Reply #37 on: June 29, 2008, 10:19:09 PM »

probably cinemag transformers and a modern version of the 2520
some cheap vu's and a neato military color case .
make all the small studios feel like they have a piece of vintage gear .
may sound great , I dont know .
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Re: arsenal audio by API??
« Reply #38 on: July 15, 2008, 04:50:26 PM »

wwittman wrote on Sun, 15 June 2008 22:07

my API 525s (for example) are 30 years old and still working great

THAT'S why i might "care" where and by whom they are made

my confidence level in the 'new' API to design new stuff worth using is not, but is near, zero





Implying that a non-American person can't build a product equal to an American is pretty ignorant. There is and has been a lot of American made junk that is done a hell of a lot better overseas. Honestly...I'd worry more about buying RoHS compliant gear. That will be the real test of a products life expectancy. I'd like to see all of the new RoHS compliant gear work 10 or 15 years from now.
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Re: arsenal audio by API??
« Reply #39 on: July 16, 2008, 06:03:13 PM »

rob s wrote on Sun, 29 June 2008 14:02

just curious, are these discreet?

They wont say.  Razz  
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Re: arsenal audio by API??
« Reply #40 on: July 21, 2008, 02:34:26 PM »

TRA wrote on Tue, 15 July 2008 16:50

wwittman wrote on Sun, 15 June 2008 22:07

my API 525s (for example) are 30 years old and still working great

THAT'S why i might "care" where and by whom they are made

my confidence level in the 'new' API to design new stuff worth using is not, but is near, zero





Implying that a non-American person can't build a product equal to an American is pretty ignorant. There is and has been a lot of American made junk that is done a hell of a lot better overseas. Honestly...I'd worry more about buying RoHS compliant gear. That will be the real test of a products life expectancy. I'd like to see all of the new RoHS compliant gear work 10 or 15 years from now.


I don't think that's what I implied.
For one thing, I'm English originally. Believe me, i think we built much better desks, on the whole, than Americans.

my strong SUSPICION here, and that's all it is, call it 'intuition', is that API decided that they cannot much alter the basic philosophy (2520s, all discrete, transformers in and out) of API without getting slammed for it.
So they introduce a new 'line' that allows them to throw all those things out the window and make the same kind of IC chip based, non-transformer, non-stepped, in a word - CHEAPER, gear that their competitors sell.

while hoping you continue to think of it as "API"


I think of it as "Squire"


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Re: arsenal audio by API??
« Reply #41 on: July 21, 2008, 03:32:51 PM »

Kudos to API for holding out as long as they did, really.  The fact that you can still buy a 2/3/512 or a 550 (or better yet, a whole console full of them!) that still resembles the original design shows some integrity in today's price-point world.

It's not about American or not, IMO (although if this stuff were made in America, you can bet they wouldn't be shy about saying so). Manufacturing is outsourced offshore for one reason:  Cost.  As soon as cost becomes the governing factor, all is lost anyways...
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Re: arsenal audio by API??
« Reply #42 on: July 21, 2008, 04:22:13 PM »

marcel wrote on Mon, 21 July 2008 15:32

Kudos to API for holding out as long as they did, really.  The fact that you can still buy a 2/3/512 or a 550 (or better yet, a whole console full of them!) that still resembles the original design shows some integrity in today's price-point world.





previous owners did not allow a cheap, Guitar Centre, Squire line

things have apparently changed
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Re: arsenal audio by API??
« Reply #43 on: July 21, 2008, 04:37:55 PM »

wwittman wrote on Mon, 21 July 2008 13:22

marcel wrote on Mon, 21 July 2008 15:32

Kudos to API for holding out as long as they did, really.  The fact that you can still buy a 2/3/512 or a 550 (or better yet, a whole console full of them!) that still resembles the original design shows some integrity in today's price-point world.





previous owners did not allow a cheap, Guitar Centre, Squire line

things have apparently changed

Sorry, I must have missed something...

Did the company change hands?
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Re: arsenal audio by API??
« Reply #44 on: July 22, 2008, 02:44:01 AM »

As long as they keep doing the original API range I am happy. If it takes a new line in order to finance for the future then so be it.
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