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Bill_Urick

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Re: Church Mic
« Reply #30 on: February 09, 2008, 06:09:29 AM »

Yeah, how bout some pics.....

of the Easter Peeps

mgod wrote on Fri, 08 February 2008 21:51

I have some Easter "Peeps" in our wetbar, approaching 15 years on April 2nd or 3rd. You're welcome to try. They've been the household deities.



Even a blind pig.......

http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/m/214799/8119/#ms g_214799

I guess this would be sort of a Church mic?




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Re: Church Mic
« Reply #31 on: February 09, 2008, 08:08:07 AM »

I have had a package of Peeps sitting on my tracking room windowsill for 10 years.

Dan, that freaks me out.

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Re: Church Mic
« Reply #32 on: February 09, 2008, 09:52:59 AM »

Kyle...
Thanks, you beat me to it. Now I know what the threaded holes are used for...that piece is missing on this one. Other than that, the mics are identical. I have to replace the surgical tubing on this one. Here are the pics that I promised...lets see what the Congregation looks like.
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Re: Church Mic
« Reply #33 on: February 09, 2008, 09:54:44 AM »

Hey Joe, where you going with that gun in your hand?index.php/fa/7479/0/
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Re: Church Mic
« Reply #34 on: February 09, 2008, 09:56:32 AM »

Goodness, who spit on this thing?index.php/fa/7480/0/
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Re: Church Mic
« Reply #35 on: February 09, 2008, 10:00:01 AM »

Only the oncologist knew...index.php/fa/7481/0/
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« Reply #36 on: February 09, 2008, 10:02:24 AM »

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Re: Church Mic
« Reply #37 on: February 09, 2008, 10:08:56 AM »

This microphone reflects how a great deal of thought and simplicity went into building it. This is a very serviceable unit...all point to point using only a small turret board. I wish all vintage microphones were built this way. Next on the docket will be an AKG C-28 that was ravaged by Dave Royer!
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Re: Church Mic
« Reply #38 on: February 09, 2008, 12:11:47 PM »

hey i have a c28
if you can make that mic rock, you are my hero !
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Re: Church Mic
« Reply #39 on: February 09, 2008, 12:13:14 PM »

Nice pics,

Wasn't it because of these Church mics that Gotham / Neumann USA refused to sell people spare parts anymore?

As for the capsule cleaning - I recall reading in my Sherman Keene audio book about the old school / Wally Heider studio method of cleaning capsules by gently letting drops of , I believe, Kodak lens cleaning fluid land on the membrane & carrying away the gunk.
*Obviously from a very short distance & the membrane turned on an angle.

Disclaimer: Don't quote me on this & don't try it at home people...
would I dare myself on one of my own LDC's? No way...
the mic doctors that are around in the USA must have their own tried & true capsule cleaning methods...

Good luck with the mic!



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Re: Church Mic
« Reply #40 on: February 09, 2008, 12:20:28 PM »

Ross Hogarth wrote on Sat, 09 February 2008 11:11

hey i have a c28
if you can make that mic rock, you are my hero !

Bring it on, along with your LA2A. I'll bet that would be a great marriage!
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« Reply #41 on: February 09, 2008, 12:34:52 PM »

Billy, thank you.  Do NOT put any fluid on the capsule.  It's not dirty enough to make that much of a difference anyway.  At most, take a lens cleaning brush to dust off the capsule, but it doesn't look very dusty.

Looks like the only original passive components left are those carbon comp resistors?  That .5/400 is the coupling cap?  I don't see the Triad.  That's a later K47.  Certainly not of the 60s era, with that plastic tension ring ... not that it makes it sound different.  but this has been worked on.

And two more questions: Is that green cap a wet tant?  And is audio going through the Xicon, or is that voltage regulation for the tube?
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Re: Church Mic
« Reply #42 on: February 09, 2008, 12:55:58 PM »

J.J. Blair wrote on Sat, 09 February 2008 18:34

Billy, thank you.  Do NOT put any fluid on the capsule.  


Just out of curiosity J.J. - is the fluid thing an urban myth or a membrane killer? It sounds believable that it could work , not that I'd dare... anyway, what's the word on that? How do the mic doctors perform a capsule clean? Sorry for the 20 questions but curious minds need to know Smile  
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Re: Church Mic
« Reply #43 on: February 09, 2008, 01:03:57 PM »

 Well, there was a thing from Gotham that said you could put distilled water on the capsule and use a very, very soft brush around the inside edge.  The purpose being that you are not really touching much of the gold, and you are removing the dust and stuff that will capture moisture, and act as a conductor between the center termination and the edge, which will short the capsule until the moisture evaporates.  It does work, the chances that you are going to screw the pooch are high, as well.

I have been of the opinion that unless the capsule is just absolutely filthy and weighted down, a particle or four of spit is not going to matter that much.  If it sounds wrong, and it's shorting out with the breath test, then send it to a pro to clean.  

As far as cleaning it himself, I'll say this Billy, don't be a hero!  Very Happy


BTW, I found this schematic.  I can barely make out the word "Sprague" in the cap section, like after .47
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Re: Church Mic
« Reply #44 on: February 09, 2008, 01:41:45 PM »

Whoopie! Schematics! (audio porn)
JJ, I would never do such a thing. I am very good at fixing things but cleaning a capsule is like cleaning a hard disk...I ain't gonna do it. Thanks for the warning. I hooked the mic up and it sounds fine even though I'm not at the studio today. Yes it was serviced a few years ago. The "Wet" cap is a lytic, not a tantalum. Now that I have a schematic I can verify everything and spec it out. One thing is for sure, they guy who serviced this mic used the shotgun approach...he replaced everything except for a couple of resistors.
I am going to take it to the studio tomorrow and let it cook for several hours while I listen for noise...maintenance day. I hope to get the EMT 140 up and running for evaluation too...a shot of tequila and a torque wrench! Just kidding. The EMT thread will get an update along with this microphone thread.
Thanks guys! Damn, another schematic for the vault..."Hey Jeeves, this shit IS a science!"
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