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Chris L

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"Big" sounding mic pres.
« on: May 03, 2004, 07:20:45 pm »

Right now I have a peavey vmp-2 that I'll probably be selling. I like the sound I'm getting on it from guitars and bass, but on drums (kick and snare) it just wasn't fast enough for me. Didn't get a really good crack or a defining kick sound.

I want to get a 'fat' sounding dual mono pre under 1k. Are there any worth considering in that price range?

Geeze. I'd REALLY just love to get a Chandler TG-2.  Maybe by the time I look at getting a new pre I'll have enough for it. Very Happy
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Re: "Big" sounding mic pres.
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2004, 03:03:43 am »

Look into an Avalon 737sp, Vintech 1272, Sytek MPX4AII or go to www.mercenary.com and speak to Fletcher...he'll be able to point you in the tight direction for sure.

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Re: "Big" sounding mic pres.
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2004, 09:28:30 pm »

The RNP can do "snap" really well.
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Harvey "Is that the right note?" Gerst
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Re: "Big" sounding mic pres.
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2004, 11:56:48 am »

Harvey,
Amongst these pages, I've seen people compare the RNP to an API. DO you see that comparison? I have a RNC and of course, love it. But I wish it was balanced +4 input.
I work just down the street from those guys, BTW.
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Ed Ferguson
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Re: "Big" sounding mic pres.
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2004, 05:51:18 pm »

Keep the VMP-2 for smooth vocals and acoustic guitars.  And get a Vintech Dual 72 for electric gtr's and drums.  The 72 is big as hell and has a good bit of color. I'm not saying that the Vintech is the best Nevish pre out there, but it does what it's supposed to do at a very fair price.  I haven't tried the TG-2, but you can bet that I've been drooling over it for quite some time.  Good luck with whatever you choose.
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Re: "Big" sounding mic pres.
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2004, 05:30:28 pm »

Big sounding/fat/dual/under $1k.  something about all that thrown together seems like an oxymoron, although a pair of Joe Meek VC6Qs (not the current sense type) might sort of fit the bill.
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Jim Dugger

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Re: "Big" sounding mic pres.
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2004, 10:46:11 pm »


Wunder Audio is in Austin, TX.  They make a 1073 unit, looks very cool.

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Aziel

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Re: "Big" sounding mic pres.
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2004, 03:25:15 am »

How can i get in touch with Wunder audio? are their 1073 good enough?  Rolling Eyes
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Re: "Big" sounding mic pres.
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2004, 11:08:03 pm »

Hello Aziel,
Someone alerted me to the fact that you want to get in touch with Wunder Audio.  you can do to http://www.wunderaudio.com/ or email mike@wunderaudio.com
look for the reviews in May 2004 Tape Op or the June 2004 Mix magazine.
It's a remake of the Zeppelin module and actually will beat a 1073 in an a/B test.
take care
Wunderkap
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Re: "Big" sounding mic pres.
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2004, 02:19:10 pm »

Hi Harvey,

First off, let me say that I have been reading and enjoying much of what you have shared in this and the HomeRecording forums.  Much Thanks!!!

I was wondering if you could give some advice...(I'm sure you don't get that line too often!!  ; )

I have a couple of decent mics(km184, mc012, ksm44), and am in the process of recording my families music: traditional Persian music.  This is all acoustic intruments, some plucked, some bowed. Vocals as well.

My setup is a Motu 896HD, with Audiodesk, and that's basically it going into an iMac.  For now, I only have plugins for effects(including dynamics, compression, etc).

While I have a ton to learn and experiment with in regards to mic placement, mic choice etc, I am wondering if there are a couple of key pieces of gear that I would need.  Specifically, for violin and vocals, would I benefit a lot from running a preamp such as the Peavey VMP-2 before the 896hd?  I find the sound of the pres on the motu a bit cold and stark.  If so, what do you think of the Peavey?  Any other pres you recommend?

Also, should I have outboard compression while tracking/recording live in the siganl chain before the motu?  I have heard greaet things about the RNC.  

Lastly, can I get a decent sound for violin (our music should have a darker, warmer tone than say fiddle) using the mics that I have.  SHould I look into a ribbon?  Would a ribbon require a preamp such as the peavey?

Sorry for bombarding with all the questions!  Feel free to only answer what you have time for.

Thanks
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Re: "Big" sounding mic pres.
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2004, 07:04:55 pm »

 Laughing  Very Happy  Shocked Guys:  How about that new Safe Sound jobbie...?  I read a review that said it was the cat's meow...not so?
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Re: "Big" sounding mic pres.
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2004, 11:18:19 pm »

I think it's the cat's meow but I'm biased! I use 2 P1's every day in my project studio.

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Re: "Big" sounding mic pres.
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2004, 04:16:17 am »

i heard an mp3 of vocals thru seventh circle audio ' s J99 mic pre and it sounded rather 3d and "rich" to me anyways Smile.
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Re: "Big" sounding mic pres.
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2004, 03:39:52 pm »

In answer to all these questions, the RNP is not exactly a "warm" preamp, but it is slightly on the "fat" side.  It's high end extension is what does it for me.  Warmer would be the Great River MP-1NV or the Safe Sounds P1.  I wouldn't get rid of the VMP-2 just yet.

And yes, I'd get a Peavey preamp for the Persian family music, and the mics you have should work fine.  Placement is everything, so take your time experimenting.
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Harvey "Is that the right note?" Gerst
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Re: "Big" sounding mic pres.
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2004, 01:11:38 am »

Some big sounding dual pres in the $1Kish area are the Vintech Dual 72  and the Sebatron vmp-2000e.
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