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J.J. Blair

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Re: Sennheiser MD 409
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2007, 07:07:27 PM »

Oliver, I thought the difference between the Echolette ES14 and the Sennheiser MD409 was like the difference between a Neumann U47 and a Telefunken U47?  Same manufacturer, different badge.  No?

I have had both the Grundig and Sennheiser versions of the MDS-1 stereo dynamic, and they are identical to my ear.  They seem to be identical to the 409, as far as I can hear, as well.
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Re: Sennheiser MD 409
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2008, 07:31:53 PM »

Hey there, does ANYONE know where i can purchase a Sennheiser 409 mic??? (you know, lil black mic with the gold top, good all around mic)  I have one with a broken capsule, might as well buy another one....  
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Re: Sennheiser MD 409
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2008, 11:31:38 PM »

They can be fond regularly on eBay.  Not cheap, but they are there.  I recommend the 409-U3s.  the 409-Ns that I have found tend to have damaged capsules, even though they look cooler.  
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Re: Sennheiser MD 409
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2008, 02:29:50 AM »

I just had the opportunity to check out the E906 for a live R&R band on Sat night. I have used MD409's in the past and I do think they are the best dynamic GTR mic going but what I heard from the E906 was fat. I used 3 different mics on a lead guitar player that night and was most impressed by the E906. The other mics were a E609 silver and an Audix I5. I know about 4 or 5 PPL that work for Sennheiser and I am told that an E series mic is going to be announced soon that will rival a KSM105. Probably about the same $ though but I got no other info to share.

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Re: Sennheiser MD 409
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2008, 12:02:12 PM »

vpham,

Try Madooma,  Martin has helped me find these types of things nice ones also.
He sold me perfect md409/M88  etc.

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Re: Sennheiser MD 409
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2008, 12:14:31 PM »

You could also look for an Echolette ES14, which is the same mic as an MD409.
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Re: Sennheiser MD 409
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2008, 02:23:28 PM »

I have an MD409 (i did pay alot, but it sounds great) but the capsule is loose inside. I want to open it but dont want to break it. is there a way to free the front grill's glue without forcing it? I assume it is constructed like the 421 where the front and back grills are glued around the center rib.
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Re: Sennheiser MD 409
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2008, 03:22:56 PM »

The 409 capsule is actually held in place by foam, in the four corners of the grill housing.  it is likely that your foam has deteriorated from humidity and needs to be replaced.  (You can do that by cutting out new pieces for yourself.)

Anyway, there are two plastic pieces on the bottom side of the mic, next to the XLR stem,  Use a small screw driver to pull those out.  They are covering the screws.  Undo the screws, and the grills will comes off.  It's pretty simple, actually.  
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Re: Sennheiser MD 409
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2008, 03:53:40 PM »

Thanks! I will try it tonight.
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Re: Sennheiser MD 409
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2008, 09:15:53 AM »

From what I've been told the 906 (not the 609) was their attempt to get back to the original 409 sound, has anybody a/b'd the two?

I was using a MD504 over a 57 on guitar cab when it first came out. Like a 57 with more low end I found (if that's what the track called for).
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Re: Sennheiser MD 409
« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2008, 02:13:40 PM »

Is you search in the Whatever Works forum, I've posted sound clips.  The 906 is certainly more like the 409 than either of the 609s, but it's still not the same.  It's good though.  
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Re: Sennheiser MD 409
« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2008, 09:30:07 AM »

Thanks JJ, Got the screws out, replaced the foam, and mic is great!
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Re: Sennheiser MD 409
« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2008, 01:14:13 PM »

Glad I could be of help!
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"The Internet enables pompous blowhards to interact with other pompous blowhards in a big circle jerk of pomposity." - Bill Maher

"The negative aspects of this business, not only will continue to prevail, but will continue to accelerate in madness. Conditions aren't going to get better, because the economics of rock and roll are getting closer and closer to the economics of Big Business America." - Bill Graham

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Re: Sennheiser MD 409
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2008, 02:12:15 PM »

J.J. Blair wrote on Fri, 26 October 2007 17:40

409 and 509 are exactly the same.  I have both.  The difference was to whom and where they were marketed, AFAIK.



I always wondered about that about some sennheiser mics.
What are the differences between an MD409/MD509
and for 441/541 or even 421/521.
they look the same, and to this point, MD441 and MD541 sound the same to me. was it just that 'blackfire' series that made some mics go from a '4' to a '5' prefix? Or are just the later more recent?
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Re: Sennheiser MD 409
« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2008, 06:29:34 PM »

Regarding the 409/509 question, I called Sennheiser USA several years ago and spoke with product specialist Scott Houston (a nice guy!) and he told me that Sennheiser had a franchise agreement with a network of pro audio dealers to exclusively distribute the 4xx series of mics.When a number of music stores wanted to sell the line, Senn. realized they were missing out on a lot of sales. The solution was to offer the same mics with a "Blackfire" designation and change the number scheme to 5xx. So.....409 from pro audio guys and 509 from music stores.

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