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Trumpetman2

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Re: The New ADK A-6 Condenser Microphone
« Reply #45 on: August 28, 2007, 03:13:37 pm »

Ashermusic wrote on Tue, 28 August 2007 12:53

Trumpetman2 wrote on Tue, 28 August 2007 17:42

Ashermusic wrote on Tue, 28 August 2007 12:04

Larry Villella wrote on Mon, 27 August 2007 19:25

There are four things that matter to me in building gear:


Tonality
Utility
Durability
Affordability

For ADK-Built products from San Diego, Seattle, or Shanghai,
we have the same mentality.  And Yes - Nine and a half years
later we've finally created a Great Space in two NEW Asian Factories.

Yet if ADK were made in Switzerland by the elves in the woods, with a chassis
made of unobtainium,  with black-hills gold diaphragms, and a phase-correcting
algorithm in the circuitry - it still only would matter if you like the sound of it!!!!!!


"Think with Your Ears!"



Larry i am sorry to be the skunk at the picnic but is there really no alternatives to China to get good products at a decent price?

I really am reluctant to help subsidize their human rights practices not only in China but around the world.

I am  not going to lie and say that if comparable products are twice as much money that I advocate buying them but I certainly would pay i.e. $750 for a non-Chinese one to i.e. $500 for a Chinese made one.



I wish it were THAT easy - I would also rather pay $750 for an American-made product versus $500 for a Chinese-made one; the problem is that it is usually more like $2,000.00 for the American-made product, versus $300 for a similar Chinese made product!!!!!!  I am not THAT patriotic!!!! Very Happy



1. I understand that and believe me I am also forced to be very  price-conscious in my gear buying decisions. That is why I am seeking to get educated here on the economic realities.

2. Also, there are a lot of countries in the world besides the US and  China so are there not other alternatives to China that may not be so blatantly bad as China?

3. For me, it is not a matter of patriotism, it is a matter of humanity.

I hope we are human beings first and audio professionals second. I do not want to believe that in the audio community there is a prevailing attitude of "As long as I can get the gear I want at a price I want I don't give a damn about whether people suffer."




Well some of us are VERY busy working and can't really keep up we/world events....why don't you educate us and tell us what is going on in China that makes it so much worse than, say Korea, parts of Europe and some/most Central American countries....
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Re: The New ADK A-6 Condenser Microphone
« Reply #46 on: August 28, 2007, 03:44:30 pm »

Well some of us are VERY busy working and can't really keep up we/world events....why don't you educate us and tell us what is going on in China that makes it so much worse than, say Korea, parts of Europe and some/most Central American countries....
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Assuming you are not being  sarcastic if you google it a lot comes up but for a starter:

http://www.hrw.org/reports/2003/sudan1103/26.htm


I am also busy working. A client is coming in in 15 minutes and we will be going for about 6-8 hours. That doesn't IMHO absolve me from trying to educate myself and to try to be part of a solution rather than part of the problem.

I am not criticizing or judging anyone here just trying to see how people feel about this and what our options are in this time when both economics and moral issues are difficult .
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Re: The New ADK A-6 Condenser Microphone
« Reply #47 on: August 28, 2007, 04:50:45 pm »

I might be wrong, and Larry or J can correct me, but I THINK ADK is only using some parts from China for their mics. Every person reading this is using something with parts from China. You can't get away from it. I am restoring a rare 60's Honda 250 scrambler. The crank was shot and couldn't be ground down because there are no undersize rods available. The Honda dealer had to order it from overseas. I figured Japan. WRONG. This picture is off the box that the crank was in.
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Re: The New ADK A-6 Condenser Microphone
« Reply #48 on: August 28, 2007, 05:07:43 pm »

Yup.  I just bought some Daewoo Mini-Split AC's, and sure enough, the Korean company's product came with a "Made In China" label.
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Re: The New ADK A-6 Condenser Microphone
« Reply #49 on: August 28, 2007, 05:42:32 pm »

I was a little surprised recently to see `Made in China' on the rear panel of the new dbx 160A I'd just bought.
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Re: The New ADK A-6 Condenser Microphone
« Reply #50 on: August 28, 2007, 06:11:47 pm »

compasspnt wrote on Tue, 28 August 2007 14:07

Yup.  I just bought some Daewoo Mini-Split AC's, and sure enough, the Korean company's product came with a "Made In China" label.



Yeah,, those "mini-split's" are great. I only wish they made the for heat.
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Re: The New ADK A-6 Condenser Microphone
« Reply #51 on: August 28, 2007, 08:28:50 pm »

REF:  TONALITY -


Musical Instruments and Microphones both exhibit sonic elements one might refer to as Timbre or Tone.


Two Steinway B's will All sound decidedly different.  A Brazilian Rosewood D-28 with
scalloped-bracing will have a different "timbre" than an East Indian Rosewood D-28
without the "pre-war" bracing system. (Of course, the type of Spruce matters, too!)

So - if we employ the rough-hewn concept of "Tone-Color" to contrast microphones,
it's the inexactitude of language that requires references to other sensory receptors
(hence, the less-than-perfect references to flavor or color in the audio realm).


SYNESTHESIA - (excerpt from Wikepedia)

A neurologically based phenomenon in which stimulation of one sensory or cognitive pathway
leads to automatic, involuntary experiences in a second sensory or cognitive pathway.


In fact, Some Musicians DO see different musical notes as Primary Colors:

Blue is a different frequency than Red, Middle C is different from G#, etc.



If that's too abstact or too simplistic for some people, I can totally dig it!!



A More Useful Approach to Mic Selection might along these lines:


Does it make my anemic Ramirez sound full ?

Does it make my boomy D-41 sound less boomy ?

Does it faithfully capture the upper register of my piano ? The lower?

Does it love the sound of my voice ? Or my wife's Voice ??

Does it enhance the sound of my Saxophone, Hammond B-3, or Harp (either kind)?

Does it take the edge (the splat and blat) out of my trumpet?

Does it add presence or tame sibilance; round-out or focus
the sound? (I.E.,what psycho-acoustic elements does it lend?)


A good mic should make the playback sound to the subjective
listener As Good - OR Better - as it did in the tracking room!


A Simple Mantra is the "Analog Gear should Flatter the Source"!!

And also - that "One Size Does NOT Fit ALL" when it comes to audio!


In the Hypothetical ADK Color-Wheel -

A Hamburg Edition is Mellow, A Vienna is Brilliant.

A6 and S-7 are in between, with the S-7 being somewhat closer
to a Hamburg, and the A6 being somewhat closer to a Vienna.


We submit "blending" is the key to playing or reproducing music!~


It's an "ENSEMBLE EFFORT" (on so many levels) !!!




Cheers!!!

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Re: The New ADK A-6 Condenser Microphone
« Reply #52 on: August 28, 2007, 11:05:41 pm »

CHANCE wrote on Tue, 28 August 2007 18:11

compasspnt wrote on Tue, 28 August 2007 14:07

Yup.  I just bought some Daewoo Mini-Split AC's, and sure enough, the Korean company's product came with a "Made In China" label.



Yeah,, those "mini-split's" are great. I only wish they made the for heat.


Way off topic:

I think hydronic heating is the same basic idea as a minisplit a/c.  Radiant pipes under your floor, usually a pex variant, will heat your place silently and efficiently... and the boiler (or direct heating plant) can be a long way away in the basement, so there's no noise at all.

Even old hot water radiators are usually dead silent... much quieter than "scorched air", as the radiant guys call forced air (furnace) heat...

Me, I'm partial to old steam systems.
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Re: The New ADK A-6 Condenser Microphone
« Reply #53 on: August 28, 2007, 11:45:28 pm »

I have just read the entire thread from the first post to the last.  I feel Cable Guy got us off to a rather bad start because:

1. He did not provide his real name.  I think this is a must when speaking positively of a product to the point it sounds like an ad.

2. He did not state his association with ADK, either as a partner, manufacturer, rep, friend, enthusiastic customer, etc.

I believe these two things must be provided at the start for honesty's sake and shouldn't be allowed to slide.

Larry was good enough to reveal Cable Guy's association with ADK.  Even tho' they have a mutual respect for each other's product, I feel Cable Guy did us all a disservice.  He could have given us the story up front about who he is and why he has this admiration.

Having said this, I will state I have not tried the ADK A-6 but have used (and now own) some Accusound Silver Pro cables.  I have no affiliation, financial or personal with anyone involved in the company.  I am a satisfied user who has compared them against Gotham cables (but not their version of starquad) and have found them to be superior in a clearly audible manner.

Barry



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Re: The New ADK A-6 Condenser Microphone
« Reply #54 on: August 29, 2007, 11:41:58 am »

CHANCE wrote on Tue, 28 August 2007 18:11


Yeah,, those "mini-split's" are great. I only wish they made the for heat.


Still off-topic:

They do make that.  Many manufacturers have models both either heat and cool (but not at the same time).

Just push the right button.
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Re: The New ADK A-6 Condenser Microphone
« Reply #55 on: August 29, 2007, 12:20:19 pm »

compasspnt wrote on Wed, 29 August 2007 08:41

CHANCE wrote on Tue, 28 August 2007 18:11


Yeah,, those "mini-split's" are great. I only wish they made the for heat.


Still off-topic:

They do make that.  Many manufacturers have models both either heat and cool (but not at the same time).

Just push the right button.




Continuing off-topic
My TR doesn't get cold, but it can get quite cool and on the verdge of uncomfortable in the winter months. The "mini" cools it very well on these 100 plus days(thanks for recommending it) but I never thought about getting a dual purpose (heat and cool) unit.
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Re: The New ADK A-6 Condenser Microphone
« Reply #56 on: August 29, 2007, 05:40:27 pm »

I didn't think to mention it before.

Here we have no heaters at all.


Now, back to ADK...
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Re: The New ADK A-6 Condenser Microphone
« Reply #57 on: August 29, 2007, 06:30:01 pm »

compasspnt wrote on Wed, 29 August 2007 16:40

I didn't think to mention it before.

Here we have no heaters at all.


Now, back to ADK...


OK, back to ADK.  They arrived today, nicely packed.  The black wooden presentation cases have a high dollar look to them and both mics are pretty hefty.  The A6 looks similar to the Hamburg/Vienna models.  The S7 is about the size of a Neumann TLM103.
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Re: The New ADK A-6 Condenser Microphone
« Reply #58 on: September 08, 2007, 12:09:26 am »

The ADK A6 is a wonderful sounding mic. I prefer it to low priced mxl or at2020 types. Spent a little more and  The AREA 51s, and now the A6 prove they know their craft.
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Re: The New ADK A-6 Condenser Microphone
« Reply #59 on: September 08, 2007, 11:56:56 pm »

That adk a6 is a wonderful sounding mic.  I had the mxl and "at" budget mics and I sold them to friends after buying the area 51s and later, an a6.  A few more bucks and you have a keeper. Cool
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