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mcsnare

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Re: Where are those Sontecs?
« Reply #60 on: February 04, 2006, 10:27:21 PM »

I've often wondered about those. I'm very familiar with the EAR 660 which is the bomb on a lot of things, mastering included. I've used the Pultec copy a few times and thought is is great also. I'm also curious of any of you guys has this piece and what you might compare it to.
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Re: Where are those Sontecs?
« Reply #61 on: February 04, 2006, 10:50:52 PM »

I'd be stunned if any of the EAR EQ's sounded like a Sontec.

They may sound great, but I doubt they have that same exact vibe...
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Re: Where are those Sontecs?
« Reply #62 on: February 05, 2006, 09:25:17 AM »

zetterstroem wrote on Wed, 01 February 2006 00:51

the last time i listened to the maselec it sounded %
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Re: Where are those Sontecs?
« Reply #63 on: February 06, 2006, 11:50:07 AM »

joeaudio wrote on Sun, 05 February 2006 15:25

zetterstroem wrote on Wed, 01 February 2006 00:51

the last time i listened to the maselec it sounded %
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Re: Where are those Sontecs?
« Reply #64 on: February 06, 2006, 06:25:52 PM »

zetterstroem wrote on Mon, 06 February 2006 16:50

joeaudio wrote on Sun, 05 February 2006 15:25

zetterstroem wrote on Wed, 01 February 2006 00:51

the last time i listened to the maselec it sounded %
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Re: Where are those Sontecs?
« Reply #65 on: February 06, 2006, 06:54:19 PM »

Joe, we are allowed to have different opinions on this forum... or are we?

If you disagree then why don't you tell us what it is that makes you like this EQ so much? Tell us something that we might haven't thought about so we can take it into consideration.

As for me I like it for it's stability and rock solid way of EQ'ing. But I dislike it for it's way of weakening and flattening the sound.

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Henrik
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Re: Where are those Sontecs?
« Reply #66 on: February 06, 2006, 07:04:08 PM »

ammitsboel wrote on Mon, 06 February 2006 23:54

Joe, we are allowed to have different opinions on this forum... or are we?

Best Regards
Henrik


Saying a piece of gear has a slightly harsh high end or
particular compressor tends to pump and the the like
are opinions. Calling the Maselec MEA-2 crap
ia talking out of your ass. Some inexperienced reader might think that's true.
Listen I'm cool.
I'm wasting time instead of making momey

Thanks Henrick,

Joe
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Re: Where are those Sontecs?
« Reply #67 on: February 06, 2006, 07:15:08 PM »

Thanks Joe, I've added a few things to the earlier post. I hope that you will answer them.

Best Regards
Henrik
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Re: Where are those Sontecs?
« Reply #68 on: February 06, 2006, 08:34:16 PM »

Henrik, it was nice to check out the big differences between e.g. the Masalec and the Gyraf 14 at your place.

Obviously those are two utterly & completely different machines, but it exemplified some of the things which makes the Masalec good and vice versa. I think it sounded great and could do some amazing stuff but I also think I follow what you mean about flattening, but I guess that's in comparison with something like the G14? Perhaps overrated (or overpriced) about the Maselec could be a word, I dunno.

Unfortuntaley the G14 isn't that good for surgical stuff. BTW I was think of getting two Pultecs based on Jakobs design.

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Re: Where are those Sontecs?
« Reply #69 on: February 07, 2006, 12:04:04 AM »

zetterstroem wrote on Mon, 06 February 2006 08:50


no actually i think it sounds crap....


I'm going to agree with you there.  I've used several different units (ones that were in Studio B and Studio E at the Enterprise, and a couple from Audio Affects) and couldn't get any usage out of them.  Not on my 2mix, not on individual instruments- no where.  Big disappointment.  I tried them on everything you can imagine.  They were definately the least used EQ's in the racks there, To me, they were plastic sounding, NOTHING LIKE AN SSL (I don't care what Leif Mases might have done to SSL's in the past), and more like a weakling version of a Speck eq in terms of sonics.  They also do not have the same character as the Sontec (at least the one at Precision Mastering in Hollywood).  YRMV, or perhaps I'm "talking out of my ass" because I don't like the unit.
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I was actually interested in checking out the UAD version of what I thought was a model of a Sontec (at Namm they had a screen that superimposed the Sontec over their mastering EQ).  I started chatting it up with the guy at the booth and he lost a sale when he wouldn't really say what EQ's they referenced but then went so far to say "Like a Maslec, only better".  Maybe they got lucky, but if they modeled a Maselec, it's of no use to me.  It's now on the bottom of my 'things to check out' list.
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Re: Where are those Sontecs?
« Reply #70 on: February 07, 2006, 05:35:18 AM »

joeaudio wrote on Tue, 07 February 2006 00:25

zetterstroem wrote on Mon, 06 February 2006 16:50

joeaudio wrote on Sun, 05 February 2006 15:25

zetterstroem wrote on Wed, 01 February 2006 00:51

the last time i listened to the maselec it sounded %
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Re: Where are those Sontecs?
« Reply #71 on: February 07, 2006, 07:43:16 AM »

I love my Cranesong Ibis.......Brad, how does your Sontec compare to your Ibis?..........Darius

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Re: Where are those Sontecs?
« Reply #72 on: February 07, 2006, 08:01:22 AM »

jazzius wrote on Tue, 07 February 2006 06:43

I love my Cranesong Ibis.......Brad, how does your Sontec compare to your Ibis?..........Darius

Very different boxes. The Sontec, while not heavily colored, isn't as 'transparent' as the Ibis when the coloration is off on the Ibis. Ibis can be a little hard on the top end, if anything the Sontec is a touch soft. The Sontec does all the heavy lifting around here, the Ibis primarily handles coloration (plus I dig the midrange on it).
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Re: Where are those Sontecs?
« Reply #73 on: February 07, 2006, 02:59:37 PM »

Brad, thanks....shame these Sontecs don't come up second hand very often (and are potentially unrepairable!).......D

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Re: Where are those Sontecs?
« Reply #74 on: February 07, 2006, 05:08:28 PM »

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if anything the Sontec is a touch soft


That's the thing that got me on the Sontec; it's "solid state", but not as we know it...

I can well imagine that a unit such as a GML 9500 blows away the Sontec if measured by a test set, but the Sontec's definitely got a certain "soft" touch to it that I don't recall witnessing on other transistor-based units.

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