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J.J. Blair

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Re: Thin Capsule Diaphragms: Better or Worse?
« Reply #30 on: June 05, 2008, 02:31:18 AM »

There's two vertical piece on the side.  Squeeze them together, and the head pops right off.  The U67/87 is the easiest Neumann to disassemble.  
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Re: Thin Capsule Diaphragms: Better or Worse?
« Reply #31 on: June 05, 2008, 09:13:04 PM »

J.J. Blair wrote on Wed, 04 June 2008 23:31

There's two vertical piece on the side.  Squeeze them together, and the head pops right off.  The U67/87 is the easiest Neumann to disassemble.  

That is a beautiful thing.  Thanks for the help.  Now I'm off so record and listen!  I'll give you my impressions (and maybe a link) later.
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Re: Thin Capsule Diaphragms: Better or Worse?
« Reply #32 on: June 05, 2008, 09:41:32 PM »

U87 and U87a capsules are not interchangeable.
U87a capsules are interchangeable with U67
http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/m/249210/4129/?sr ch=u87+capsule#msg_249210
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Re: Thin Capsule Diaphragms: Better or Worse?
« Reply #33 on: June 05, 2008, 10:28:15 PM »

The Stephen Paul 87 is NOT an "A" and the stock 87 IS an "Ai".  

Does that mean if I swap the heads the comparison will not be a fair one?  Or does that mean it will not work, potentially damaging something?
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Re: Thin Capsule Diaphragms: Better or Worse?
« Reply #34 on: June 05, 2008, 10:47:25 PM »

http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/m/236104/0/?srch= K87#msg_236104

U87a uses a higher polarizing voltage than the U87
60V instead of 48V if I recall.
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Re: Thin Capsule Diaphragms: Better or Worse?
« Reply #35 on: June 05, 2008, 10:49:19 PM »

It will not work because the contact pins will not fit.
No danger involved, just the old 'the key won't fit the door' thing.

They did that, because patterns in the "A" model are derived differently than in the non-"A" model, i.e. the two capsules are not interchangeable from model to model, and would not work properly on the other model.
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« Reply #36 on: June 06, 2008, 08:39:06 AM »

It doesn't really fit the U87 discussion but I found something interesting. Many, including me, thought that the M50's "alu-capsule" had a super thin (1-2
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Re: Thin Capsule Diaphragms: Better or Worse?
« Reply #37 on: June 06, 2008, 12:19:21 PM »

I recently tried my C12VR Stephen Paul 3u mic on vocals and I was amazed.  I had all but decided I was going to sell this mic but no more.  It is really clear and nice. I had it up against a U47 and my singer and I both were "wow'd".   A great flavor to have available.  It sounded good on classical guitar too.
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Re: Thin Capsule Diaphragms: Better or Worse?
« Reply #38 on: June 06, 2008, 12:52:15 PM »

Dominick wrote on Thu, 05 June 2008 18:41

U87 and U87a capsules are not interchangeable.
U87a capsules are interchangeable with U67
  http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/m/249210/4129/?sr ch=u87+capsule#msg_249210



Missed that it was an A.  My bad.  Sorry.
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"The Internet enables pompous blowhards to interact with other pompous blowhards in a big circle jerk of pomposity." - Bill Maher

"The negative aspects of this business, not only will continue to prevail, but will continue to accelerate in madness. Conditions aren't going to get better, because the economics of rock and roll are getting closer and closer to the economics of Big Business America." - Bill Graham

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Re: Thin Capsule Diaphragms: Better or Worse?
« Reply #39 on: June 06, 2008, 01:50:11 PM »

I learned how to take off the head assembly.  The scenery along the walk was interesting even if I went to the wrong destination. Smile
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