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[compasspnt]

wwittman wrote on Sun, 08 January 2006 18:08

Lately I've been having the most luck with LaCie's, but I admit that some people have told me they've had trouble with them. But so far *I* have them all purring away happily.

Same experience here with Lacie, Wm.

UNTIL LAST WEEK that is.  One of our Lacie 200's which had worked great for 6 months suddenly went south.  Very depressing.

[maxim]

i have one of those lacie porsche drive and it's pretty small and cool and portable, but i can't bring myself to trusting it completely, so digital rule #1 still aplies

maxtor, caveat emptor

the seagate icecube has been with me for 5 years now, travelled across the world and back a few times, and it still purrs

(this message was typed while gripping tightly a large piece of wood)

aaaaah, the good old tape days

[Invisible Member]

Ive been using one of these for my video projects drive.

http://www.pacificproaudio.com/drives.asp

Peace,
Dennis

[Spiritwalkerpro]

Lacie D2 drives have been very good for me.  Had trouble with Maxtor and western digital drives.

Norm

[FireMoon]

If its for recording to . i'd forget the offboard answer and go for a Western Digital Raptor on a SATA connection fitted internally in  it own nice quiet cooling enclosure in a 5 inch drive bay.

I'd go for a couple of IDE drives on USB connections for storage..
WD Raptor 36 meg drive for OS and Apps.. and a WD Raptor 76 meg for recording to and working on mixes from.

Plus buy a copy of Perfect Disk 7 for degragmentation duties, it pees allover the one that comes with XP from a great height. It also allows you to offline defrag your swap file. Keeping your system drive tidy pays massive benefits across  the whole of using a comp fullstop ,DON'T neglect the housekeeping.

[nob turner]

there are only three manufacturers of drive mechanisms left in the world: seagate/maxtor, western digital, and ibm/hitachi.  after that, you are just talking about whose case the drive mechanism is mounted in.  seagate and maxtor announced their merger in late december.  and yes, the enclosures can fail... but that rarely leads to data loss, compared to the drive itself crashing.

everyone has a story of how SOME drive has failed... undoubtedly from every manufacturer.  i am currently using drives from all 3 which have been in service for a long time and continue to function well.  however, they will all eventually fail.  ALL DRIVES FAIL.  they are electromechanical units that cannot last forever.  expecting otherwise is like expecting your car to run forever.  anecdotal evidence in the past has suggested that of the IDE drives, seagate's barracudas were particularly reliable.  they certainly maintained the longest warranty when everyone was shortening theirs.  that may change with the merger.  

personally, i have been buying drives for a couple of years from an online retailer--coolerexpress.com.  i've found which enclosure seems to be reliable and relatively quiet (the bytecc plastic 3.5" model) and i have them put a seagate in it.  currently a 160GB firewire unit sells for $114 plus tax and shipping.  i will keep using these until i start having trouble with them.  

the bottom line, as always, is to back up religiously.

[thedoc]

 A few months ago I had stated the following, but I think it bears repeating. (I paraphrase...)

I  went to a symposium at USC that was all about archival and storage.  A speaker from Seagate was there (name forgotten, sorry) who is a expert in hard drive manufacture.  He said that drives are designed to last a couple of years, but that most last longer than that.  He also said that if a drive makes it past six months, that it will most likely last a few years.

He also made the point that drives may LOOK like they are hermetically sealed, but that they are not.  dirty air, bouncing around, moist air, these things kill drives.

I see people treating drives too roughly and assuming too much too often...!

An important file that exists on only one drive does not exist at all!

Have you kissed your RAID today?

[minister]

thedoc wrote on Sun, 29 January 2006 18:41

went to a symposium at USC that was all about archival and storage.  A speaker from Seagate was there (name forgotten, sorry) who is a expert in hard drive manufacture.  He said that drives are designed to last a couple of years, but that most last longer than that.  He also said that if a drive makes it past six months, that it will most likely last a few years.

so, what would he say to my seagate cheetah SCSI drives that i have had for 6 years and show no signhs of slowing down?

[thedoc]

Well he did say that most drives last longer than their original design target, so it's all good.  I have a ton of the very same drives that you have and they have been spinning for years. I was surprised when he said that they are designed to work for 2 or 3 years, but i guess that they were built well.

You probably also do not throw your drives in a backpack and head to the beach.

[minister]

thedoc wrote on Mon, 30 January 2006 12:30

You probably also do not throw your drives in a backpack and head to the beach.

well...i DO!...but i leave the backpack at the studio and go to the beach driveless!

[thedoc]

LOL...

Sand in your hard drive is worse than sand in your shorts.

[compasspnt]

compasspnt wrote on Fri, 06 January 2006 06:56

I just bought some of these  http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlis  t&A=details&Q=&sku=325205&is=REG&addedTr oughType=categoryNavigation for an upcoming production.  (That's why they are now out of stock!)  Hope they are good...will report...

OK.  I've used the Glyphs now everyday, very hard, for over five weeks, and not a single hiccup.  I don't know which brand mechanism is inside them, but the cases and psu's have been excellent.  One thing I really like about them over the OWC's (my other fave) and the Lacie's is the IEC mains plug instead of the little in-between-psu-thingie.  Those can get lost, and create a minor dilemma at times.

Best regards.

[Tidewater]

Fibes just lost one of two LaCie controllers... drive intact, as far as we can tell.

Box dead.


M

[compasspnt]

DivideByZero wrote on Thu, 09 February 2006 16:45

Fibes just lost one of two LaCie controllers... drive intact, as far as we can tell. Box dead. M

Yep.  Just lost a Lacie here as well.

Revolt?  Mutiny?

[maxim]

terry wrote:

"Yep. Just lost a Lacie here as well.

Revolt? Mutiny?"

nope, it just didn't like what you said about it in a public forum

was the drive connected to the internet?

you do the sums