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[Andrew07]

Right now when I record I bring all the faders 3-5db down and mix accordingly so they don't clip the master fader. Is this enough headroom or should I bring them down lower? And how many db are usually squeezed out post master fader? When I give bands a demo cd to take home at the end of the day I'm still not sure how many db I should be adding to get close to commercial level(I'm using Sony's Inflator). Thanks for any help, guys

[Tidewater]

Don't mix into the mix buss limiter with digital, leave some room up there, to master out.

I record tracks at lower levels, to take advantage of not having tape noise anymore.   oh my god... I just remembered what we all loved about even crappy digital.

I find nearing 0 on the 2 buss is very harsh.


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[Pingu]

There was a whole thread on this, i forget what it was called or else id paste a link. It was how i found this gold mine.
Summing up, with digital recording at -12db was the outcome.

Dont know if that helps.

[PookyNMR]

DivideByZero wrote on Sat, 10 December 2005 19:07

Don't mix into the mix buss limiter with digital, leave some room up there, to master out.

Putting a limiter on your master bus will make your mastering engineer very unhappy...

[Tidewater]

heh and you damned well wouldn't want that..


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[Andrew07]

Phi Lion, what should be at -12? The peaks or the average level of the faders?

Pooky NMR, this is just for demo stuff before mastering. Kind of "minute mastering" if you will. I was just wondering where the peaks should be if I'm going for sheer loudness

[Pingu]

Andrew07 wrote on Sun, 11 December 2005 07:02

Phi Lion, what should be at -12? The peaks or the average level of the faders? Pooky NMR, this is just for demo stuff before mastering. Kind of "minute mastering" if you will. I was just wondering where the peaks should be if I'm going for sheer loudness

Im not sure WRT loudness but the -12db discussion had to do with obtaining a nice clean digital non harsh signal.

From my experience it is a lot easier to increase the volume of a well recorded clean signal than it is with a signal or mix that has had each element of the mix pushed to the limit and has that gritty
element, which aint too pleasant to my ears.
Digital domain.

[Eric Bridenbaker]

I find in dgital that a -6dbfs maximum peak level on the tracks is best for summing and plugin i/o.

Best,
Eric

[compasspnt]

Andrew, read all 15 or so pages of a great thread here previously.  The level questions are addressed about mid point:

http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/mv/msg/4918/0/128 /6490/?SQ=c6e5f5ed35c51528cad5d3fccdc3bc38

I'll see if this thread can be "stickied."  It comes up a lot.

[Andrew07]

Awesome. Thanks for all the help, guys

[Pingu]

Thats the thread


its great.